[transfers would put modern transportation to shame]

As originally posted by SeaMonkey:

The ability to interdict rail movement already exists in the bomber role of reducing cities to less than 50% efficiency, denying op moves to that location.

True enough, insofar as it goes.

This moment.

Who knows what a modder might?

Wish to incorporate

In some other differenty scaled scenario,

1800 or so - forward,

As with US Civil War.

1) One thing... I can easily foresee

Rails going to places where there are

NO City as hub/terminus,

(IE... from a remote city and then

trailing off into... dead-end)

And you might want to cut that rail spur

To prevent supply to remote units.

Also, you have your VERY long line

From, let's say - Warsaw to Minsk.

Reducing either of those cities SHOULD?

Prevent ANY rail/supply movement

ALL ALONG that line?

No whistle-stop Train Stations in any

Small cities along the way,

As one might imagine it to be?

2) Yer apparent preference is apt,

IF you are using the "railheads" option.

If NOT, then you would likely

Wish to interdict the rail/supply network

Somewhere along the line, eh?

(... same way as you could interdict

convoy lines with a revised naval

dive/torpedo sort of bomber)

In fact, were there to be some rail/roads,

Then,

Our old pal the under-utilized Engineer

Would have - a new! task.

Repairing the network at break-point.

As is, we are apparently destroying

Some part of the transport hub

Located - somewhere

In the generally ruined City?

Are we sure we got that Round House?

Kinda small in relation

To the Big City and its vast environs.

And yet,

Assuming we did hit the tiny target,

Not any way to fix it.

Other than waiting for ONE improvement

Each turn,

Which may never happen

Since the determined Bomber

Could actually keep City @ zero - forever,

Or the rest of the present game,

Whichever comes first.

That likelihood seems... improbable.

IRL War, I mean.

More realistic,

As viable option, IMO, to have your on-map

Rail lines,

(... or air-vulnerable Convoy lines)

Which could be destroyed

At - ANY point, along the path,

And,

Here comes efficient Engineer!

Who could repair - at reasonable cost,

And,

In ONLY one turn,

That particular portion of the line

Has been disrupted.

Therefore,

Rail/roads are indeed an OPtional

Method to simulate... op-moves.

If we had it,

Modded in, or O/W,

I would use it.

INSTEAD of,

Or, a'times - for variety,

THE delightful spice of Life - in addition

To... "rail-heads." :cool:

________________________

**IOW... suppose there is a LONG rail line

From City to City - after all, not a LOT

Of Cities on board, and then the unit could

Op-move ONLY to - the point of disrupture,

And no further... say, half-way from Paris

To Brest, and not all the way

Into, or next to Brest.

_________________________

And, as possibility... allow your Engineer

To BUILD new lines.

For example,

You have the '39 Scenario

With rail/roads ONLY going

From Capital to Capital.

So.

IF you want that line from Paris

To Bordeaux, well,

You have to instruct Engineer

To construct.

I wouldn't mind something such as this

As well:

IF the Engineer connects a rail line

To a resource such as Oil or Mine/mineral,

Or, to a new! Factory Complex sprite,

THEN,

The value of the resources increases

By one.

Building things.

Making your OWN unique game board.

Now that's the ticket! LOL!

**Could even have it where old pal Engineer

Could ALSO

Construct:

1) Airports (... range and recon bonus)

2) Supply Depots (... for "offensives,"

Which, actually were VERY expensive

to undertake... might curtail some

of the helter-skelter ram-rod around, eh?)

3) Shipyards (... for repairs BEYOND

just the one point per turn for smaller ports)

4) Sub Pens (... IRL, there was not ANY

damage to ANY subs in ANY sub-pens)

5) ?????... no limit to the human ingenuity

or imagination, eh?

Now,

Some Old Guard Grogs are gonna opine:

"You want to have Civ 3 or 5 or 7?

Go buy it and play it!"

I say:

WHEN you can be intimately involved

In CREATING a VERY unique and personally

Contrived Map/Environment,

In a game, or,

In your own life (... IE, that new!

kitchen remodeling you finally!

Finished at great effort? So neighbors

actually CLAMOR to come to

YOUR house for dinner? LOL!)

Well,

All to the better.

IMHO. :cool:

[ February 14, 2007, 04:36 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]

[Epic game]

Allied commander's promises to Stockholm to grant them planning permission for thousands of IKEA stores worldwide are starting to win the Swedes over and they must surely enter by Winter 45.

Sounds like a great game Minty.

Had very many myself, playing HvsH.

Now,

If we can only punch up the AI

Some more, a little bit more,

Here and there and

All around the SC Town, well,

We'd really have some kind of b/witchen

Wonderful, eh?

And,

Some thing tells me... it's gonna happen,

IS happening... now. :cool:

[Suggestions for game improvements for next patch or expansion pack (SUMMARY)]

I would like... the EASY ability

To use that fantabulous Editor,

Ever evolving as it is,

And must be,

To... put LETTERING on any map.

Well,

Maybe some SC Graphics Cat

Already knows HOW this can be done,

Using "MS Paint" or some other inaccessible

To most of us, sort of

Fancy Graphics program.

Cool for them.

But,

I'd prefer that we could do it

Ourselves, as we please.

Large maps,

Middling maps,

Small maps.

Names of cities,

Names of gulfs or bays,

Names of regions,

Or a whole mountain meadow

Named after an old girl-friend

From 1963. :cool:

(... nope, my wife ain't up yet, still

sleeping, won't read this

commentary, ever... will she? :eek: LOL!)

[transfers would put modern transportation to shame]

Originally posted by Colin I:

Dave/others:

For land units why not give them simply a fixed (better than normal) move (Action Points) for OP move, increased for each level of infrastructure and if they start in or adjacent to a supply source (railhead effect) and/or finish in this environment. They cannot use it to enter enemy held territory and it won't work if enemy unit is adjacent (don't like tactical use of OP move).

This is basically a solution similar to that used in classical wargaming for non-combat/strategic movement - can't see why it won't work here too. It uses the normal game mechanics (normal movement rules with an effect like air units for not entering enemy territory), doesn't it so should program OK.

Excellent propostion Colin I,

And I really like having "infrastructure"

Play a part in movement cost.

We need to make that research area

More valuable, in terms of

"Bang for the buck."

I wouldn't mind also seeing

Engineers able to build & repair

Rail roads,

So that Strat bombers would have

Another target.

[... and BTW, and as corollary,

I ardently AGREE with those

who would like the "naval bombers,"

however configured, to be able

to score hits on any convoy line]

Small % chance to hit, of course,

Yet,

It would add great excitement

(... trying to knock out the rail

from Paris to Brest in '44, for instance)

And equally vital - variablity

To this fast! evolving game.

**Nobody ain't seen hardly NUTHIN' yet!

ANYTHING that can enhance/increase

The... "aesthetic gestalt,"

Is - Jake the Rake, with me. :cool:

[Malta & Tunis]

As originally posted by Liam:

From what I understand before Barbarossa Malta was under siege, so I do not see it serving much use as a base to attack supply. I've already suggested Bombers have a duel role in interdicting supplies but that was obviously never taken seriously.

Very true.

Even,

To the extent that - during daylight hours,

The paltry submarine force

Had to remain submerged

During daylight hours

Or it woulda been smashed to smithereens.

Malta "effect" just was NOT much of an effect

UNTIL, oh, 'round about

Spring of 1942 when

"Malta Strike Force"

WAS finally able to interdict

Enough supplies to "turn the tide"

Against the Desert Fox in North Africa.

I do like the idea, however,

That Malta Effect is primarily based on

The size of the unit,

IE, if it has been diminished,

Whether that be ground or air,

(... yep, I would have this difference

for unit type - in HvsH games, since

Solo-AI doesn't KNOW, or care, which is

more likely to inflict the most damage

on convoys)

AND, additionally,

On the size of the port and the little

Island enclave itself.

IOW, you start at, say, 10% "effectiveness"

And that would be reduced,

Proportionally,

Depending on the COMBINED "value/effect"

Of unit AND resource. :cool:

[... all of this would be a pain

in the keister... in a board game, but,

computer capability can and should allow

MORE intricate combinations and "un-seen"

calculation - a simple "pop-up" with

brief explantion of results should be

sufficient - same kind of thing you might

use for convoy attack results, or, strat

bombing success, or lack thereof]

[Neutral USA?]

History is very odd sometimes.

Yep, especially when it issues

Out the mouth

Of the Nazis.

Well,

For that matter,

"War Propaganda"

Then, or, NOW,

Ain't exactly the whole truth

And - nothing but, eh?

JUST because something is WRITTEN down,

Doesn't mean it is

Exacto facto.

Does it?

And,

What you can

Every day mundane - see, witness,

Breathe in, ozmose,

Is, oh, probably?

A tiny FRACTION

Of all that is... actually "there."

So.

I wouldn't bet the Gigantic Corporate Farm

On anything - ANY Government

CLAIMS,

During... war.

Peaceful existence... maybe.

[How to destroy the United States]

Originally posted by SeaMonkey:

You guys are so comical! All this reactionary stuff about economics, global warming, hunger, oppression, disease, etc., on and on.

That's just the point, "on and on". For over a half a century I've been getting up listening to the doomsayers, and life goes on as it did before.

Just as my Grandpa used to tell me about the coming debacles that never truly unfolded into global calamity.

And they just keep on coming, fear mongering.....it just kind of makes me smile now.

Ridiculous......when it gets really bad, something will be done about it, or if its so bad nothing can be done, then everyone is in trouble.

When everyone is in trouble..."no one"(notice that its two words) is in trouble.

Who is it? What is it that feeds on all this media generated fear? The sun comes up and I go about my business, but this measly existance could end in the flash of a millisecond.

So What? I enjoy it for what its worth, another "Day in the Life".

Don't worry, be happy!

Legion are the number, SM,

Yea verily, are the number of Scoff Cats

Who have been handsomely gifted

For dutifully DENYING a thing

Which quite apparently... exists,

Does NOT ipso in facto exist - at all!

Usually, some body with vested interest,

Say,

Like a fat cat that has got ALL he

Or she needs,

And has no concern IF the next neighbor do.

It's REALLY the rage

These days - the... Credo, Dude,

"I got mine, ta hell with at mangy Cat

Over there, over the border!"

Well, I guess it's like you said once:

"I am a Texan FIRST,

And an American next."

LOL!

Well,

Got some news for ya.

"Fear mongering" and "double-speak"

Ain't o-riginating

From out of the mouth of

Bawling Babes, eh?

It cometh from - hallowed halls

And echoes offa marble,

Dirtied white walls.

"War IS Peace."

"Black is White."

(... IE, in terms of "equal

opportunity and access" I mean, LOL!)

See, it's all... of a piece.

Like... Day into Night.

Sorta like so:

The gloaming is what is nebulous

And - deliberately so confusatory here.

Who can SEE coming disaster,

There in the HALF DARK,

When the bark of the willow tree

Looks exactly like the Devil's mark!

At's more & more alleged to be

EVERYWHERE at the once!

LOLOL!

BTW, I anyhow, ain't need NO body else

To tell me things aint'... quite... right

Out there.

All I gotta do

Is take a long walk through

The ummmm... rather shoddy built,

Clutter & dross littered City,

Over the walls where gangstas have left

Their infantile spew-marks,

And on out into

The cactii and scrub,

Them snake trails, and following

The (... here and

gone again!) Roadrunner tail - through

The flash-flooded gulleys & washes.

Take a... good... long... look-see.

Consult MOSTLY my... gut.

No need for enny 'em "experts,"

Most in particular, that kind

Are, like I say, sore handsomely

PAID

To - as the street mime also do,

Intimate - what a Fool!

Don't you know?

Such and so is indeed MY truth.

Can't you SEE that, drone-on Dude?

Or, also as mentioned,

They got it so awful good,

They'll just insist and insist and insist

The "dreamed up" problems

(... as, recently, all them - bees?

just... disappearing? Where ever did

they go?)

Just...do NOT exist.

LOL, times have changed since yer Grandpa

Roamed the big-fin roads, yes?

Things have... accelerated.

I wonder?

We got enough... brakes,

Are..."techno efficient/sufficient?"

__________________________________

BTW: Along with:

"Don't worry, be happy,"

You forgot to also say:

"Have a nice Day! "

LOLOL!

[ February 13, 2007, 04:06 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]

[transfers would put modern transportation to shame]

As originally posted by Liam:

Operational movement isn't accurate but it's really hard to tactically improve upon it. The game level just doesn't support Rails properly nor does it support the many cities and limited transport areas represented in game...

Well, RAILS sure enough... could.

Make Op Moves more realistic, IMO.

You have a basic rail network,

And Op Moves/Strategic Moves

Would have to "follow the blazed trail"

Of... the rail road.

Supply too.

IOW, say, you could Operate a unit

From Berlin to Konigsberg,

Transport it to Helsinki,

And then, likely, depending on how you

ADD rail roads to your own mod/game,

Force march the unit to Mekilli Lakes area

Where Russian Karelian Front

Is causing incessant consternation.

That kind of thing.

BTW, Liam, your idea of Zones

Is a pretty good one.

Especially "over the seas" movement.

And, would work, especially WRT to sending

Air Fleets - all over the place and gone.

I would prefer it where you have to TRANSPORT

Air units across the 7 Seas.

Or, alternately, they could move

Up to TWICE normal strike range

As part of "re-basing,"

And, assuming a chain of friendly tiles,

Eventually get where they want to be.

**Various penalties and/or bonuses

For Op/Strat moves have been discussed

Since the very beginning.

Who knows?

Maybe some thing new!

And daring and different might appear

Down the John Henry rail road? :cool:

[How to destroy the United States]

To paraphrase Robert Kennedy,

Who paraphrased it from some old,

Long since expired Cat,

Who that was, don't know, don't care,

It's not important anyhow, just now.

_________________________

Some see things as they ARE,

And ask... why?

Others,

See things as they are not,

And, have NEVER been,

And ask... why not?

__________________________

Communism?

Some of it good, most of it stifling,

Dreadful, totalitarian-tending.

Socialism?

Parts of it could work,

Lots of it would not, ever.

Utopia?

LOLOLOL!

Well, it's a surreal dream-scape

And allows us ineffectual escape.

Like... Walter Mitty

Goes to the Circus

Kind of cartoon thing.

Capitalism?

Simple.

It's gonna kill us all.

And,

Most likely accomplished,

By... BURYING us under

Tons and tons and tons and tons and tons

Of... TRASH.

Yeah, come-back Kid,

It'll all disintegrate in 10-20,000 years.

We ain't got that long.

Think of this.

How much garbage do you carry out,

All... by... your... own self,

Each and every day of the week?

Yippee! I AM free!

Well, multiply that by 7 billion. :eek:

Bury it in the sick suffering Earth?

Carry it on long ships,

And dump it in the gagging Seas?

That'll work.

For... a little while longer.

So.

Now we got China, and Russia,

And India, and many many others

Demanding their industrial due.

Ipso in facto,

Now we can MULTIPLY that amount

Of trash and dross and garbage

By another 1, 2, 3, 7 more!... billions.

Whee, what fun it will be

For - YOUR grand-kids!

To clean up.

Hmmmm... where do they begin?

OH!

I see.

Technnology will save us!

LOLOL!

We can send it into... outer-most space!

Though, hmmm... that's expensive eh?

OK,

Back to the original thought,

To envision... what is NOT.

How about?

Some combination of all of the following:

Plato's Republic.

USA Bill of Rights.

British Parliamentary System.

(... I LIKE that idea where the PM, as Blair

MUST predictably appear and answer all sorts

of - sometimes outright indignant, though

apparently respectful, questions... ALSO,

the notion that a Government can be: delivered

unto the trash heap - along with all those

mod electronics that go defunct in a year

or 2 - in a vote of "no confidence!" IF we

had that here in USA, them Oil Goons woulda been pitched out years ago! )

So, on we go,

Ten Commandments.

Christ the Carpenter's "Sermon on the Mount."

Olde Knights' "Code of Honor."

SOME Euro versions of "social democracy"

(... as inexactly, imperfectly integrated

with industrial/entrepeneurial necessity )

And etc etc etc.

WHO!

Will NOW come together

(... NO! NOT biddy

Hillary's crazy CON--vocation - "the Global

Village!"

LOL! That's only more of the current

trend towards "one world Government," which

is anathema, at least,

to me... it's just NOT "human

nature" to live en masse, and

the "tribal instinct" will, as proven out

over many millenia, NEVER go away, it's here

to stay, so we may as well admit that,

and go from there)

AND!

Dream up something better than what we got,

So to avoid? Is it even possible?

The disaster we are surely headed for,

THEN!

IF the power-brokers and World Bank

And Federal Reserve Board

(... who took away everybody's GOLD

and replaced it with worthless paper,

which, BTW, does NOT have to be

redeemed, and one day, quite likely,

won't be - like those promised pensions

by the Super Corps just... suddenly,

one fine Blue Bird warbling

day... immaterialized!)

And those who now HAVE ALL THEY NEED,

And much more?

Don't like the NEW form of governance?

Tough sh*t - throw 'em the hell out.

Right along with those billions

Of little plastic doo-dads,

Let 'em shovel wet cement I say,

For a couple bucks a day.

See how they like it.

OK.

Time to - QUIT thinking in terms of

What you NOW got,

In ANY of its' many iterations,

And start thinking of what... might be?

Different?

Unique?

All including?

Fair,

Honorable,

Each respecting,

Challenging,

Allowing for Nirvana, Sartori, Heaven,

Hell, Purgatory, the 9 Circles,

Reincarnation, existential nothing-ness,

Atheism - WHATEVER floats yer boat,

And, finding the good,

And, deliberately TRYING

To displace the bad

(... well, some are "sociopaths," and

nothing to do about that but put 'em

away and throw that dungeon key

on our ever growing! Trash Heap, LOL!)

Some of the dwindling resources, for each?

Instead of - as in USA,

The top 20% controlling 80% of the wealth?

Now, it's alright with me

How YOU "rationalize" and justify it

(... IE - ME, I am superior, blessed by innate

brains or, more like it, lack of common

conscience, and DESERVE all that excess

that I, and I ALONE... earned!

What ego-maniacal... crap. )

EVERYBODY born on this earth

is entitled to a part of it, IMHO,

It dont' BELONG to:

Exxon-Mobile,

The Pentagon,

The Queen of England,

Bill Gates,

Rupert Murdoch,

Oprah Winfrey,

Barry Bonds,

Whoever it was who started E-Bay,

A Saudi Prince, or Shiek,

Well, you get the idea.

The dirt, the soil, the very earth

And all its majestic spendours,

Belongs to... each.

Not too difficult a proposition

To imagine?

We need more

Fee feisty Cats like - Spartacus,

And WAY, way less of those

Who somehow suppose

That they, and they alone... are

Somehow?

DESERVING,

And should be allowed to create

As much... TRASH... as they please!

LOL, how... absurd.

How awful... small.

[ February 11, 2007, 04:45 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]

[How to destroy the United States]

Oh my god. I think my brain just melted reading your post Desert Dave. :eek:

What the dickens Exel?

Melt?

In that... icen enclave AKA: Land

Of the Finns? LOL!

Well,

Another Cold Cat ain't like baseball, eh?

That's alright,

I ain't liked it since, oh,

'Round about 19 and 69.

[... 'cept for the little leaguers,

then the parents aren't around ]

I got another one for yer fragile noggin,

Been meaning to post it up

Since the war boys with their

War toys been shoutin'

For more!

Young blood, well,

That what ain't their own,

Or,

ANY of their OWN kids, that is,

As for instance,

99% of the craven cowards who are running

A Great collection

Of 50 States - the hell

Into the ground, of late.

____________________________________

The following composed by

Brian Turner,

An infantry team leader

In Iraq, for a year.

In 2005, he published a collection of poems, "Here, Bullet," quite likely

to endure long after

the shrill arguments about the war have been forgotten.

Here is one Turner poem, whose title means "friend" in Arabic,

prefaced with a quotation from Sa'di, the 13th century Persian poet:

__________________________________

"Sadiq"

It is a condition of wisdom in the archer

to be patient because when the arrow

leaves the bow, it returns no more.

It should make you shake and sweat,

nightmare you, strand you in a desert

of irrevocable desolation, the consequences

seared into the vein, no matter what adrenaline

feeds the muscle its courage, no matter

what god shines down on you, no matter

what crackling pain and anger

you carry in your fists, my friend,

it should break your heart to kill.

_______________________________

Some folks KNOW,

Been around,

Elbows are scarred,

Knees are abraded,

Got the hands dirty,

The heart fired

In kilns of ecstasy, and,

Travail,

Learned stuff the hard way,

And yet... still

And sore fiercely - holding dear

Such defunct - very nearly,

Dumb considered ideas

As:

Honor,

Decency,

Dignity,

For all!

[... and I DO mean... every... single

living thing... this,

all our one and only Earth)

Others,

As events make evident,

These last two to four-score

And more!

Years... aint' got... a frickin' clue.

[How to destroy the United States]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with our form of government. The problem is the leaders themselves!

LOL, yeah boy,

Old Idaho Ivanho,

Of late,

[Hey! teetering Stilt Man, ain't it

A sad Mad, hate-gay Parade! ]

And especially these last several decades,

Most shame-less-ly,

Them there kill-shy shill-meisters

Are... bought... and... sold!

As so many

1950's era Baseball Cards are

Over the ether E-Bay.

O my aching *ss, Fred Myrkle!

What you gotta pay!

For a 1958 card-set issue

**(... REAL-deal ball

player likeness - in a circle,

Remember JJ?

Alas, couldn't do that

sort of PIC now - heads are so swole

from throwing 'roids down the gape-hole,

they wouldn't FIT should

the card be -> bill-board size :eek: )

Anyhow, a REAL ball-player card

Of, say, one of 'em true Cool Cats

Outta Dee-troit City - marv Harv Kuenn,

Or slick-mitt'd Al Kaline, even!

Coot Veal and/or Ozzie Virgil!

(... depending on how much loot

ya got to spare... 'course, this omits

VERY many now who ain't even able

to cadge together

rent & med monies )

Why, it's a psycophantic crime!

See, IF the LAWS of the Land,

In this FAST devolving, teeny-tiny-D

"democracy,"

Were to be strictly, fairly administered,

Hell's bells, Mr Swell,

There wouldn't BE any 'em lying thieves

We got usurping all over the place

These last 6 years,

In the White House nor

In 'at Zoo

AKA: ape-walk Congress,

Save, maybe,

One or 2 or - three?

LOLOL!

BTW: No need to tell me to "simmer"

SeaMonkey,

From what I ken tell,

Yer all confused about WHAT is "free"

Market

And what is or is not:

Monopoly,

Gamed System,

Birthright decrees,

Ivy League pedigree,

Stolen from Workers kind of Lucre,

And the like,

See what I mean? LOL!

[1.06?]

Originally posted by Hyazinth von Strachwitz:

Basically I think that 1.05a is a very big step ahead from 1.00.... we are almost where we want to be.

But there are a few smaller things I would wish for 1.06:

- French Reunification script in case the Allies liberate France and Vichy France isn´t yet involved in the war or also liberated

- Allied AI should attach HQs to their bombers and AFs in England while bombing France and Germany.. all planes in England work on lowered morale and readiness at the moment

- the english engineer unit should not sit south of Alexandria having tea while Axis forces approach.. it should be in the El Alamein fortification

- Russian AI (although greatly improved) is still operating wildly all through Russia.. i.e. it is removing a fresh army somewhere just to replace it with another similar unit.. waste of MPP

- Imagine the following situation: english troops took Sicily and dig in... HQ, Army, Corps and AF... why does the AI put Axis 25 units to Italy? Seems a bit too much... and there is just one or two of the who can conduct attacks per turn..

Apt remarks, HvS,

These can all be repaired.

One way or another.

Anybody else got enny commentaries

On how the AI can be improved? :cool:

[This game is unplayable!!!]

Originally posted by TaoJah:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by arado234:

Im playing 1 pbem as germany and have had only 1 tech hit for the whole game.Its now summer 1942.

I got the same problem : I get ALOT less tech hits then normal in both my e-mail games so far. Not just a bit less, nono, ALOT ALOT ALOT less.

When it was only one game, I thought "well, bad luck, good for the other guy". But in the second game it's exactly the same.

In all my AI games (and I played alot), there was not one single game were I had such slow tech advances then in my two PBEM games.

Either I am the unluckiest PBEM player in the world or there is something wrong, I tell you. </font>

[Legend's Give War Chance Tour is over! 41 Win 15 Lost 66 Yodl 1 Coward 3 Draw 1 MIA]

Yogi, the fact Rambo beat my Allies when I hadn't made too many errors or my Axis which is shifty but 'so so' shows he's a good player. You'll never accomplish this

I wouldn't bet on that Liam.

From what I've read,

Yogi, TJ,

And many others have got some, ummm,

Earnest interest

In learning the in & out intricacies

Of SC-2 Blitzkrieg.

One of these days!

One of 'em will... just possibly?

Even... beat - you?

Goto Panzerliga, study for about 100 games then give advice and talk trash, it bores me these players who play mods and talk trash and never really beat even a mediocre player like me.

Well,

90 % +++

Don't go to PL,

Don't know nor care what it IS, no,

They sit easy like

Always!

Smiling Buddha

(... ever wonder?

WHY that is the case?)

In their very own game-room,

And!

Have the time of their lives! :cool:

Thing is... Hubert,

Or ANY game company, in exacto fact,

Would go broke in 17 seconds flat!

Should they merely market

To a few head-hunters,

And not take into serious account

Those who:

1) Never post on any board,

2) Never care who is #1,

Nor, #18 or - next to last!

Poor slob!

On some arbitrary list,

3) Never say out loud - to their wife,

Mistress or faithful dog, such as this:

I AM

THE... almost! best - at this!

They're prob'ly just... havin' fun.

[worth getting?]

You talkin' to me?

Hard to tell.

Addressed to no name.

Partial quote, out of rhyme.

Leastways you didn't use that

X-tremely un-cool, unschooled

"@" jive.

[worth getting?]

... so I will definitely buy it now with all the good reports above.

WELL worth the price, gwg,

And best part?

YOU!

Can make it PRECISELY how you'd like it.

The Editor is unprecedented,

And from what I can gather,

Glancing around at other similar kinds

Of games to come

[... ahem, one of which seems to be

"borrowing" an AWFUL LOT

of Hubert's schemes & ideas, well,

sometimes, I guess, you gotta do that when you

ain't got much... Mojo Moxie of yer own, eh? ]

THIS Editor will - REMAIN that way.

By an immense length.

And EVEN IF you are notso apt

At that... as of... yet,

You soon enough WILL be.

It is VERY easy to learn,

Either the Event or AI schematics, yea,

There are detailed instructions

For each and EVERY file,

And "help" provided,

Not only in-game, but

Also by VERY accomplished SC Cats,

Here, and over to the work-shop

AKA... Mod Forum. :cool:

More like Third Reich, without having to argue over the rules.

Er, except for what we do here.

Arguing,

Discussing,

Debating,

At mainly gracious decibel & percussion,

Keeps any "work in progress" vital & fresh,

O Yes, as is necessary.

And thank the Lucky Stars!

Lars,

For that!

Whether it be,

Improving the Game,

Or,

Perhaps, if pro-actively

Bent, and/or intractably intent,

Him and her and them and you,

And, possibly... even me, IE,

Old collar-less dogs CAN learn new!

Licks & tricks.

[ January 12, 2007, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]

[american armed forces]

Is this the Rambo war that I predicted at the end of this thread?

No.

Thing is Minty

You'd have to do yer homework,

And go back,

Let's see... over 4 RAMbunctious years,

And read and ponder and read

On 3 or 4 different Forums,

A couple of which

No longer exist, BTW,

In order to sleightly understand

What is happening here, uh huh, and

What it IS ain't exactly clear,

There's a man with a... well, never mind,

So, hmmmm... you made some other predictions

'At also proved out incorrect, eh?

No mention of enny DEBACLE

IE,

UK co-conspired and mired in Iraq, true?

Besides which,

Folks can mostly say what they please,

(... you for one - don't mind - right?)

By - VERY DEFINITION

Of the term... "forum."

Else,

It wouldn't even BE such as that, would it?

[american armed forces]

Originally posted by jon_j_rambo:

This dude was in the Army. He helped Gerry after the war & before Reagan proclaimed,"Mr. Gorby, tear down this wall!". You ain't nothing but a hound dog.

Ummm... ever hear the term

Non Sequiter?

rambo jr... in pancake make-up

And silk-black top hat

And set-sail tails,

Assailing! the audience

With nifty - heel & toe,

A 2-step dosey-doe,

And!

A whip crack! :eek:

Then the Crowd gets fidgety, yep,

Commences to get up and - go.

LOL!

Yah,

Audie, Elvis,

The Mighty Mouse Marauder,

Who the hell else too!

I'll re-visit my old pal

Ernie Pyle now & again,

Over to the Desert City Library,

And NOT - no, never EVER

Forget to pay my repects

At

The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

Now there's a courageous,

Honorable some one you can

Re-set yer disquiet heart-beat to.

[american armed forces]

I've played EVERY single WW-2 GS game,

Board or Pixel,

Ack!

My own words - once again!

Coming back to haunt me!

Didn't play GG's WaW,

Though I did look 'er over real good,

Same as I NOW check in

On progress of ANY new! WW-2 GS game,

As with Commander - Europe @ War,

And concluded... an inane,

Simplistic rip-off of the VERY worst

Aspects of "Axis & Allies."

WHAT a piece of exploitive

And copy-cat bunch of JUNK

THAT thing is!

LOL, I'd LITERALLY be ashamed to even

Have it on my VERY extensive

Game shelf. :eek:

[american armed forces]

Its alright guys, no need to be humbled, we've all been there and you never can tell the next month when it comes around again maybe it will conjure up some different philosophy, comments, like this one just did.

Very true Brad,

Not a thing WRONG with re-visiting old ideas,

Since... things change.

Gotta keep up,

Here, out there, in yer community or home, and

Not merely with patches,

But WRT each our own "modified Gestalt,"

As we see how the many great games play out,

Either HvsH or Solo,

Each EQUALLY important.

Best evidence... your OWN evolving commentaries

Which,

As with ALL the rest of the members,

Are VITAL in order to INSURE

A dynamic and greatly evolved game.

In actual exacto-fact - YOU - all,

ARE the new! Beta Testers!

Well, this discussion comes back every month, so somewhere between the 7th and the 8th time saying this, I kinda stopped being diplomatic.

No need to STIFLE yer intuitive,

Gut-feelings and honest,

True-to-Self comments and suggestions TJ.

As with Retributar, Normal Dude, Moonslayer

And many others,

You - and they, have X-traordinarily

Original,

WW-2 enthused,

Entertaining

(... wouldn't even BE a Forum unless

all sorts of stuff - game related, O/T,

or personal jump & jive, was IN there, true? :cool: )

And VERY well informed

Perspective on this whole... shebang!!

Keep 'em fresh ideas coming! :cool:

[ January 10, 2007, 06:22 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]

[american armed forces]

A mite cynical TJ,

And too,

A lot provocative.

The US, USSR, Germany, UK made x armies, y tanks z airplanes, so why bother give the player a choice ? Let's be historical and just put all the units in the production queue at start-up...

A good mix might be half and half.

Half you choose,

Half provided on P/Q.

As is,

You've got more latitude than

There does exist from

Arctic to Antarctic.

Rommel lost in Africa, so why don't we make it impossible for a player to take Egypt ? Hey, it would be historical !

Yep, it would.

Many games make it VERY difficult

For Axis to take out Eygpt,

Just as it SHOULD be.

As for instance, Third Reich

The board-game, where

You are only allowed so many strength points

In North Afrika,

IF you've not taken out Malta.

"Malta Effect" implemented to partly

Replicate that.

There are other ways as well

Using combination of Event/AI scripting.

In short : this is a game so you have to put in balance.

I've played EVERY single WW-2 GS game,

Board or Pixel,

And, IMHO, Hubert is WELL within

The "norm" on OOB's

Start to finish,

Alpha to Omega.

To put it a bit more provovative : "If you want it to be historical, read a book".

Nonsense.

Any WW-2 GS game worth it's Gestalt & salt

Has combination of 3 essential things:

1) FUN to play, no matter how you gotta

finagle it.

Map not QUITE as per 1939 World Atlas?

So what.

You can have USA the size of a mustard seed

Or,

Covering half the screen area,

Clear over to Los Alamos, NM

(... side note... used to drive a truck

and off-loaded deliveries to that place, yea, it

were... eerie and unsettling... musta been

the "aura" of... I am Ecce Homo NOW!

Destroyer of my one and only World, LOLOLOL!)

Anyway, don't matter a whit

How you might "draw & paint" the game-board.

2) AESTHETICLY pleasing, IE, decent graphics

and in-game "enchantments" and variablility.

It's PROVEN through decades of research

That EVERYONE is "attracted" to, and by

Symmetry, and an apt, ah,

Enrapturing sort of colour palette.

3) Adheres to what I like to call

Yer basic... "Historical imperatives"

Not strictly,

And yet, EXACTLY enough so

That there is not as much ram-around,

Flim-flammable

Scam shambling

With 'em gamey exploits

And "literal impossiblities"

Such as taking out Low Countries

In 1939.

Or,

EITHER side invading French NA Colonies

Until USA did it in November 1942.

Well,

There are PLENTY of "modders" out there,

More every day!

Insofar as I can tell,

Who change OOB's and schematics

And what-else besides!

So to suit

How they MOST prefer it.

NEVER been ANY Editor such as the one

Hubert has provided,

Has there? :cool:

[Legend's Give War Chance Tour is over! 41 Win 15 Lost 66 Yodl 1 Coward 3 Draw 1 MIA]

But,

As I have suspected right along,

You have some style & grace

My own words, well,

I thought... I was hoping... maybe?

Some kind of truce, ah, drat it,

Spoke to soon, again.

Well,

Live & learn, what else to do? :confused:

[Research in Hvh ???]

Actually a much better challenge....so you wilt at the first appearance of adversity?

Sounds exactly like the climate that pervades the civilized????? world today.

LOLOL!

Well,

Kinda quiet out here in Desert City,

So may as well respond to this simplistic

Comment:

I suppose the only real "climactic" problem

Is... global warming - which 90% ++

Of reputable Scientists the world over

Agree IS occurring.

Done with that.

NOw,

As for this "adversity" jive,

Here's how I see that SM:

1) Manichean World View too pervasive,

US vs THEM, and it's Black & White,

WIth no shades of grey

(... kinda how rambo junior

likes to see it )

2) Chauvinistic attitudes shouting loud,

@ Individuals, or @ States, IE,

Patriotism mis-placed,

Militarism gone bonkers - even

Commencing to make un-livable

Outer space

(... as with Mars of late)

3) SELF interest above all else,

"I/we/my Country is #1 - ha-ha!

Take that scoundrels!

4) Creating "adversity"

Where not long before

There was... NONE, for instance,

To illustrate for you... imagine IF

Some future "Super Power,"

China for example,

Sent troops deep into... the heart of Texas.

You think them Alamo-remembering Dudes

Would stand for that? LOL!

So - why on earth would ANY other Nation,

Say, like 'em in Middle East

Since 1947 or so,

Would want anybody else's troops occupying

And interfering in their country?

Finally,

I'd list the 7 Deadly Sins,

But,

I am quite confident you already know

All those, yes?

[Legend's Give War Chance Tour is over! 41 Win 15 Lost 66 Yodl 1 Coward 3 Draw 1 MIA]

@Yogi --- If you'd like to clear your name, we can simply play a PBEM game

Yep, I knew it.

Not only are you Ace #1 Show Man

(... in old, Center-Ring tradition)

Of early & later... SC Boards,

But,

As I have suspected right along,

You have some style & grace

And!

Idaho Ivan Ho!

Quest-ability... all over the place! :cool:

BTW: One of these Days!

You and me gotta have a knock-down

Drag-out contest.

Once I get caught up on a few personal

Projects and - MUCH mundane-else besides!

**Thing is,

I ain't got broad-band,

So EM might be better way to go.

Them Desert City Monolithic Monopoly

Of a Cable company

Are just - out of my price range, alas.

[Legend's Give War Chance Tour is over! 41 Win 15 Lost 66 Yodl 1 Coward 3 Draw 1 MIA]

I knew you were in my thread, stalking...Now, are you going to step up like a man? You'd better get back & hide...where it's safe...with the women, children & the A.I. crowd.

You just cannot let things go , that it?

Women children and AI crowd?

LOL!

Yogi's cool SC Cat, Man.

Hmmm... read these next 2 somewheres,

"Forgive and Yee shall be Forgiven."

"Judge not lest Yee be judged."

BE what you CLAIM to be, brother rambo junior.