Desert Dave
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We lost.Dude, 'Nam is over, we won.Can you, at last, internalize that?
Just like... we have already - LOST
In Iraq.
How many more?
Gotta die... to satisfy?
The very Old, Tired, Dumb-defeated,
Clue-less and soft-hand'd... MEN
Who will, at long last,
QUIT acting as though American youth
Are some kind of disposable OBJECTS?
Get it straight, for once.
Too many, IMHO, flat-out "big-stick"
(... note: I use the term - "stick"
as deliberate IRONY... ah sure, I am ACTUALLY thinking of a term that rhymes
with stick, LOL!
)Neanderthals,
Who cannot - who knows why or what-for?
Come to grips with... necessary CHANGE.
Well, they'd better, and REAL soon.
Else... we'll run them the HELL out of there.
It's really that simple... dude.
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One last thing... YOU
jon_j_rambo
Are... of age.
YOU! can sign up - TODAY,
And... go... "over there," yea?
Just like so VERY many others who TALK
BIG about... WAR,
But, somehow, some way, some HOW,
Just... don't... finally... go.
Let the poor boys shoulder the load, eh?
LOLOLOL!
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Yep, EASY to say,
When you ain't been there, eh Bad Cat?
Let's hearken to something original:
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Well come on all of you big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again,
He got himself in a terrible jam,
Way down yonder in Vietnam,
Put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun
And its 1,2,3 what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me I don't give a damn,
The next stop is Vietnam,
And its 5,6,7 open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
WHOOPEE we're all gonna die
Well come on wall street don't be slow,
Why man this is war go go go,
There's plenty good money to be made,
By supplying the army with the tools of the trade,
Just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb
They drop it on the Vietcong.
And its 1,2,3 what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me I don't give a damn,
The next stop is Vietnam,
And its 5,6,7 open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
WHOOPEE we're all gonna die
Well come on generals let's move fast,
Your big chance is come at last,
Gotta go out and get those reds,
The only good commie is one that's dead,
And you know that peace can only be won,
When you blow them all to kingdom come
And its 1,2,3 what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me I don't give a damn,
The next stop is Vietnam,
And its 5,6,7 open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
WHOOPEE we're all gonna die
Well come on mothers across the land,
Pack your boys off to Vietnam,
Come on fathers don't hesitate,
Send your sons off before its too late,
Be the first one on your block,
To have your boy come home in a box
And its 1,2,3 what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me I don't give a damn,
The next stop is Vietnam,
And its 5,6,7 open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
WHOOPEE we're all gonna die
-- Country Joe and the Fish
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3,000 young Dudes dead
'Cuz of Bush JUNIOR's obstinate
SELF righteousness.
Cool. :cool:
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LOLOL!What I want is a game where I don't feel like quitting my first HvH game before even Barbarossa because of bad luck, that's what I want...Why would you QUIT?
Be like... the "head-hunters,"
Who memorize each and every
Script and Event %... line.
Look,
You gotta take the good w/the BAD,
Yes?
It's how it IS.
Make the BEST of what you got.
Besides,
HvsH is NOT the ONLY way to go, oh, LOL!
Not hardly.
Where are all these WW-2 "Experts?"
When it comes to... making
SOMETHING
Out of... NOTHING,
As Hubert has done?
Where are all their AI enhancements?
It's not so hard,
Just READ the detailed instructions
In EACH and every AI or Event script.
As if... you are... now!
THE innovator.
Too MANY seem, to be... BIG on "hero-worship"
LOLOLOL! :eek:
But,
woefully short on making something
New!
And... different!
And... unique!
The REAL challenge is... active creation.
ANYBODY can... "game the system."
Yawn.
[ January 03, 2007, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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Time to take that sorry, silly
"Coward"
Out of yer Headline, jjr.
You don't got the credentials
To say - who is,
Who ain't.
There ARE no cowards among GENUINE gamers.
Except, of late,
Them faux-warriors in Washington D.C.
Who "game" the World,
And usually... LOSE... LOL!
Let's get!
Some REAL "been-there-soldiers,"
'Stead of them
"I had BETTER things to do"
(... Strangelove Cheney's response
to why? Didn't YOU serve in VN?)
Kind of Soul-seeped COWARDS,
Be a nice change, eh?
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You want SOME variability,
Game to game? Don't ya? :confused:
Why on God's X-tremely!
Fast-beserking Earth?
Would you want ho-hum!
PREDICTABLE events?
Whether that be,
In... research.
Or... diplomacy.
Or... dice-rolls.
Or... in yer OWN fast!! dis-appearing
Life?
LOL!
Crimeney,
One of the truly GREAT features
Of Hubert's innovative Game,
IS the un-predict-ability.
What is this worrisome hand-wringing
RE: a few games,
A VERY few games,
Where you don't get EXACTLY what you want?
I'd advise... listen to the Rolling Stones
A little more,
And a LOT less to... Barry Manilow
Singin' out them Elevator Tunes, eh?
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You got the gist of it TJ,I can not say that I understood everything you said, DD, but if you said that the development-attention of the game is a bit too much tweaked towards HvH and modding lately, then I agree.If that's not what you said : sorry
And your AI suggestions are appreciated. :cool:
It's kinda like this... I got this friend,
Taciturn and a "loner" he is, who
Rebuilds and customizes
Old, worn-down VW Kamper Wagens,
Any year, any make, any condition.
He is an artisan.
A VERY particular and dedicated Craftsman.
Only the very best parts,
Only a faithful (... historical) adherence
To the original design.
He ONLY needs to sell one or two of these
Each year,
@ $30,000 - 40 thou - profit per, and!
Man O Man, 'e's living the dream
Skipping down Mainstreet,
Right next door to... the Simpsons.
IF you are going to market
Smaller items,
Say, @ $30-40 per,
You sure do gotta appeal, yea,
You gotta listen to a greater,
I say again,
A MUCH larger audience
Than some small Cadre of 20 or so,
No matter how earnest and articulate.
Hubert,
(... with some apt help from Edwin P)
HAS indeed made the AI much, much better.
Simply compare first version
To the last.
And so, Yippee!
On a cool & brisk following-breeze
We rare! To go! :cool:
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Terif, Terif, Terif,That´s the theory if no bad enemy would exist...There are all kinds! Of "bad enemies"
When you play HvsH.
I give you that, and many are the ones
Who tell us all about those most incredible
Adventures and "a-historical" exploits, yea,
I am happy for them.
Really-truly.
However... since the VAST majority
Of casual, and even - dedicated gamers
Play it out SOLO
(... as with board-gaming of old, when
you could hardly ever find someone
to "stick it out" over the course
of a lenghty game, other than the "clubs,"
as I did @ University way back when... :cool: )
You wouldn't want, IMHO, to make a game,
And,
Tailor and tweak a game,
To satisfy - merely a hand-full of players.
What we got?
10-20, perhaps even 30?
SC Cats that ONLY play HvsH?
Who are most vociferous about what
THEY want, and prefer.
How about that 90 % ++
Who also would like a great
Gaming experience?
Who,
Do NOT, insofar as I can tell, and
Especially of late,
Make their wishes known, possibly,
Intimidated?
By those are voluble vociferous,
As priorly mentioned.
Well,
Experience does make it difficult,
Though NOT impossible - given
The free-form Editor capabilites,
To "balance" the game, or the "mods."
Ask Kuniworth... though we don't have to
As he's already made his frustration known.
I too have had some difficulties
In creating a mod that will "nullify"
That tremendous advantage of Axis experience.
Particularly with Air Fleets,
As it was in SC-1.
Surely,
We NEED a "bad enemy" for an AI,
And, for both sides, yes?
Introducing, and MOSTLY improving a game,
ANY game,
To satisfy those realtive
FEW who only play HvsH,
Is NEVER enough, nope, not by a long shot.
IMHO.
And so... the Quest - the tilting
At ephemeral Windmills,
There upon the sagging-staggering steed,
Continues.
Who knows?
Perhaps one fine blue-bird warbling day,
We can say... NOW
Here is a game that those silent 90 % ++
Can ALSO enjoy.
Well,
Enough of all that,
I've said my piece,
Time to give it a rest.
NOBODY, as I have lived it out
The hard-scrabble way,
Is... the BEST.
At playing the game,
Or,
Equally important,
IMPROVING the game.
EVERYBODY has good ideas,
Not just the HvsH'ers,
And maybe?
We'll finally hear some? :cool:
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I find this - ummm, somewhat hard to imagine.For once, I have so far never seen or owned in several hundred games a ground unit with more than str 12 !Then again,
Your VERACITY has NEVER,
Since December 2002, been in doubt,
So,
I take you at yer word.
Your MAGNIFICENT playing recordAt least I personally don´t care about experience for ground units...Speaks a language all it's own.
Not German,
Not English (... which is, a'times,
even BETTER than mine!
)Nor Romance langauge
Nor Sanskrit or what is writ
By that perpetually moving finger.
Thus,
You know what's what,
I am merely... Acolyte
At some mythic altar,
Is how we MIGHT phrase it.
Yep,only for air units it really matters for meAnd that is become... problematical.
Just - too much Air experience earned
Too fast.
Maybe trimmed... by half? :confused:
You DO know America,...lastly elite units are also a prestige object that you can be proud of (even if they have no real additonal use in combat
).And Americans,
"Ami's" as I heard us termed
Then I lived in your exceptionally
Pristine clean and pretty green!
And for - Millenia-storied Land,
Circa 1960-63 it was. :cool:
Yep, we seem to prefer... BIG.
BIGGER.
BIGGEST!!
Oft utterly disregading the old,
Good as Gold... shibboleth:
"A LITTLE
Goes a l-o-o-nn-g ways!"
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Sure it does Terif,In consequence, experience doesn´t really matter in ground warfare, it is simply a more or less neglectable effect.You better betcha it do indeed.
First,
I wouldn't classify basic experiential effects
As merely... negligable.
More like - variable-valuable.
Second,
You have a double benefit.
IE,
The first and basic improvement,
Und denn,
The added ability to "over-strength" the unit.
Surely you've played games where?
A size "14" or "15" Army,
Or Tank Group,
Or Corps,
Or Air Fleet,
Will deal out some mighty devastating mayhem,
All the while taking NO - none,
I mean to say... zero
Hits/damage themselves? :eek:
Yep,
More pronounced problem in SOLO games
Since the AI hasn't become
Proficient ENOUGH... as of yet,
So to KNOW it is a grand stand,
First,
Last or - in honor of the Bugle Band,
To UPGRADE units during those inactive
Spells, as
In winter months most especially.
Therefore,
Your remark that "experience" per se,
Doesn't MATTER,
In ground combat,
Ist kleine verfurhen, Ya?
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And a happy!
Prosperous!
Fun-filled!
And plain old Cool Cat
New Year's!
To all! :cool:
[ December 31, 2006, 08:52 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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Sure, yep,Re: many freebies for Allies - one way to see it. But on the other side this gives Allies the opportunity to take the initiative in certain areas and start some action or cause Axis to implement countermessures to prevent Allies from conquering certain nations...resulting e.g. in the race for Algier where it is a cat and mouse game who will get or keep it .But OTOH, I must ask?
IRL War, exactly WHEN did the Allies,
Or the Axis,
Attack French Morocco,
Algeria or Tunisia?
And,
IF - NEITHER side
Did it... until Torch,
WHY was that the case?
IOW,
IF there are any changes,
(... and I'm NOT saying there will be - so,
You may well have what you got
From now 0 until Kingdom Come, LOL!
)They would be MINOR.
Again,
If not in default, then surely some enterprising
Soul will do so in an "historically-bent"
Mod, eh?
You are right on
When you advise that EVEN small changes
CAN result in subtle,
Yet lasting impact on the Grand Campaign.
As I said,
I have no more influence on these matters
Than you do,
Or many others on this board.
But,
LIKE YOU,
I am, and have been since first buying
AH's D-Day back in - oh, 1960
Or so,
A genuinely dedicated WW-2 GS gamer.
My own concerns
Are slightly different than yours, but,
Well,
That's what makes the World go 'Round, eh?
DIFFERENT points of reference, and How we view what's COOL. :cool:
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Superb analysis all around Terif,Morale of the story: be careful what you wish for...historical accurracy may be good, but sometimes even slight changes have a huge - and not always good - impact in the gameThough I would disagree with
Some of your sentiments.
IF there is not some adherence
To... historical imperatives,
You may as well be playing
King Kong VS the US Air Forces! LOL!
IOW,
It is FAR preferred to maintain WW-2
Realities,
All the while providing AMPLE opportunity
For "what-ifs"
Than having a game that veers off into
Exploits and mechanical "technique."
IMHO.
Others,
Can and will agree with YOU,
And that's cool.
Hellraiser has made some good points
RE: too many "freebies" for the Allies,
In terms of conquests,
And I personally hope that will be
Changed around in the future.
Though, it's not up to me - never has been,
It's the proper province
Of what the majority of Players
Would most like to have, and
So - we'll see.
And Kuniworth
Has valid concerns
RE: too much GErman experience too soon.
I would expect - just guessing,
That a few of the MODS I have heard about,
Yet in-the-making,
To include unique AI scripting,
Will present some new challenges
WRT to present "exploits,"
IF NOT addressed other-wise.
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BTW, just a reminder... the game
Is NOT meant merely for HvsH players,
But,
Inclusively,
For all of those who enjoy solo contests also.
NO apologies... I ALWAYS strive
To insure that those folks
CAN have a REALLY good game as well.
[ December 24, 2006, 05:49 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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This end of year we have SC2,
Wonder what we'll get next year?
Something new!
And terrific different, I'd bet.
I like how that great creative
John Lennon
Has phrased it:
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So this is Christmas,
And what have you done
Another year over
A new one's just begun
And so this is Christmas
I hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young
Chorus:
A very merry Christmas
And a Happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear
And so this is Christmas
For weak and for strong
For rich and the poor ones
The world is so wrong
And so happy Christmas
For black and for white
For yellow and red ones
Let's stop all the fight...
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No fear.
Of... anything.
Why buy into that?
And no more "might-makes-right"
Kinds of fights.
How awful... Retro.
Yea, Lennon made Grace-full music
For ANY place, or Age. :cool:
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BW,Of course, there could be smaller changes that makes ind tech more attracting for the Axis. A good example is Blashy's proposal to have 15% increase instead of 10 % but still only affect the Homeland ressources.It is not merely a "proposal" - incidentally,
Made by SEVERAL testers,
And,
Some distant time ago at that,
But,
In V 1.05a... it is an implemented FACT.
What does that mean, war-wise?
Say you invest early and get a hit
In a year's time.
4 more years of 13 turns is ~50 turns
**TIMES 17= ~850 added MPP's
(... 110 resource value
in "greater GErmany" Xs .15= 16.5,
rounded off to 17)
Now, subtract 125 initial investment
And some variable amount for Strat Bombing,
Let's say another ~125 or so
(... though, yep, some HvsH'ers are Air Cowboys,
so it would be some more)
And you have a net profit for GErmany
Of approximately 600 MPP's over
The course of a game, and, assuming
That GErmany manages to hold onto
It's "home-lands" for the duration.
Now, I usually do 2 chits for V 1.05a
And IF I get that 2nd hit
By the end of the 2nd year, well,
Then I have 600 + about another 400
(... 3 years= ~ 40 turns Xs .15, less cost
and average bomb damage= 400)
Ipso,
There you got a compelling rationale
For making I.T. part of your
Game Plan, eh? :cool:
... 2 chits, 2 hits
2 years... and 1000 MPP's!
What might you be able to buy
For that kind of industrial largesse?
Any doubts now IF I.T. is worth it?
You know USSR & USA are going to get
I.T. as soon as possible
(... HvsH OR in Solo games, since AI scripting
is also "geared" toward early investment for
both Nations - you can make it even higher
should you choose - AI scripting is quite easy
as it turns out, thanks!! To Hubert's most amazing, and adeptly documented Editor
) Due to their very high
Return on investment, and so
Worrying over whether GErmany's investment
Will actually help them do so,
In some X-tremely miniscule way,
Is a waste of woe & worry.
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Well well well.Head to head games are difficult, AI games are easy...This and other akin/common comments
Here & there and aboundin' 'round SC Town
Would lead me to believe,
Competitive SC-Cats are most out rageous, eh?
Whereas,
Those 90% + of us
Who ALSO enjoy Solo Games are like 'em
Turnips what fell off a trundle truck?
Or,
Uni-cell creatures only emerged from out
The swampfires?
That primordial... mire & muck?
LOLOL!
Nonsense!
You should see!
You should - hear tell!
Of all 'em MODS coming soon!
To a Theatre near you
Or - on Mars, or on the Moon!
Hey Liam!
We enjoy hearing these most amazing exploits
From you fair few who
Do!
Like to write up a witching war-story,
As Ernie Pyle
And Bill Malden
And Me-first! to Paris-first!
Hemingway
Did also indeed do,
In terms of WW-2 anyhow,
But,
Just you wait!
Better AI and other stuff too
Is on the way!
Hey, say... Hooray??
Also strict fictional nonsense.I can beat the AI on crack cocaine, crank, Acid and with half an eyeball.You doin' much of enny a' that there
Soma AND Soul destroying
JUNK,
Then,
You ain't a'knowin' nuthin' AT ALL,
Yea Brother,
I knows that much
From up close 'n personal experientials.
I'd advise,
Stay OFF the Self-mugging drugs,
Illegal AND,
In the main,
Them MUCH abused "legal" ones too. :cool:
Insofar as "half an eye-ball,"
That ain't no big news.
Same way as we don't use but about 10 %
Of our brains?
We don't use, oh... maybe?
About 5% of our (IN) sight abilities?
What I would really like to SEE, is,
MORE!
New and unique AI scripts written!
Stuck in 'em new mods all over the place!
Anybody can do it!
The!
Greatest!
Most Amazing!
Editor the world has EVER known
Is within a key-board-stroke - reach! :cool:
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Well Skando Mod Man,Hey Man, what are you cooking?Just tonight it'll be... Bueno
Brand... red-chile TURKEY enchiladas,
As, that 20# Thanksgiving bird
Just... will... NOT go away!
Thanks for the invite.Maybe we oughta join forces and do a scenario together some day.Sounds like a plan.
Gotta get my own MOD done first,
And,
Then we see... personally,
I wouldn't mind trying
Para Air Assault on Crete, though,
I thought? I heard tell
Somebody is already planning that one?
Either that, OR... War of the Roses?
Knights and their pages, and
Bishops with idol dreams,
Lancers and Jesters
And impregnable Castles
And... near impregnable Queens!
It'd be a one for - all ages! :cool:
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Most X-cellent Post, WD Gent. :cool:
One of my heroes from the WW-2 era
Was... Ernie Pyle,
The Pulitzer Prize winning
War Correspondent.
I can re-live some of his intrepid exploits
By visiting his former home,
Now turned into a Library,
Not 10 blocks from where I live
Here in Desert City... the Mayor
Has just recently found many funds
To re-hab this city landmark.
[... when you visit, be sure to sign-in; you'll
notice folks from all over the world; some,
quite "famous"]
At least once a month I will cycle up there
And peruse the shelves and grab
An arm-full of WW-2 books
(... besides the PICS and Bio's of
Ernie himself, the library specializes in all sorts of WW-2 histories & lit)
And then sit outside,
Under the favorite tree,
And read read read.
It's a genuine pleasure.
**Here's a VERY brief glimpse of this truly
Courageous, and quite talented writer:
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"The American campaign against the Japanese on Okinawa still raged when a war correspondent new to the Pacific theater stepped ashore on Ie Shima, a small island just west of Okinawa. Traveling with a group of infantrymen, the reporter was killed by a sniper's machine-gun bullets. Saddened by their loss, the soldiers paid tribute to their fallen friend with a simple plaque reading: "At this spot, the 77th Infantry Division lost a Buddy, Ernie Pyle, 18 April 1945."
To the millions on the American home front during World War II, Ernie Pyle's column offered a foxhole view of the struggle as he reported on the life, and sometimes death, of the average soldier. When he died, Pyle's readership was worldwide, with his column appearing in 400 daily and 300 weekly newspapers.
---Extract from... "Indiana Historical Society"
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This used to happen before latest patch;Oh, and once I managed to capture two of his UK ships after taking the Denmark port : his boats were trapped north og Germany, hehe.No longer.
It would help to have more SPECIFICS
About this "odd AI behavior," IE,
WHEN it happens, as to date,
Circumstances, and situation reports,
And the like kind of helpful comments.
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Never saw this sort of behavior
In 6 or 8 default '39 games.
Maybe?
Play that one and see if it still occurs?
As far as "overly aggressive" Naval AI,
Well,
Used to hear manifold complaints! :eek:
That Allied Navies didn't do nuthin' much!
Now,
You got some fast action reaction,
At least.
Just finished one default '39 game
Where the combined UK and USA Navies
COMPLETELY eliminated
ALL the Italian Navy.
EVEN... when I had (... early on) purchased
A GErman Naval Bomber to help out.
Let's see IF this unusual behavior
Happens in default game?
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Let's see... I have, on various occasions,
Attacked Norway
With full Kriegsmarine,
(... and UK WAS aggressive then!
Sunk several sur-prized capital ships!)
And,
Have seen many D-Day's come & go,
Though,
WHEN they happened,
Kriegsmarine was already somewhat decimated,
So it did not "interfere" with landings,
Is that when all this amphib-as-assault boats sort of stuff takes place?
[ November 24, 2006, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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Gee... Lookee!... something is obviously wrong. Very strange...
Loki!
Musta had a hand in this particular difficulty?
Again?
I told you,
Skando Mondo,
You gotta keep 'im locked in the trunk!
Yer
Golden Hawk Studebaker trunk!
The one you tool around in,
Seeking lewdless pulchritude?
LOL!
Well,
Keep on trying,
You've made a helluva MOD :cool:
Which is more than I can say for me!
So far, anyhow.
But... coming soon!
To a Euro-Theatre near you!
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**[LOKI... was the scion of a Giant, and was a trickster god who deceived Balder, and therefore killed him. He was bound in a forgotten cave by the other gods, but was finally freed on Rognarok. He was the father of Fenrir and too, the Midgrad Serpent.]
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Myth das ist Terif,
Du habst wichtig Einblick,
Wegen das Wissen!
(... all ya gotta do is
cock the Kopf, and... listen!)
Mein aufrichtig Kompliment. :cool:
[ November 22, 2006, 08:04 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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Pascal was a spiritual Beingjjr, knowing things - instinctively:By the way, according to many, Mr. Pascal had a deathbed conversion...because his little mathematical equations couldn't save a billygoat, let alone himself.
LONG BEFORE
He reached 'is death-bed.
Upon unfathomable skies,
And,
Honey-manna, had he fed.
VERY many accomplished Mathematicians
And,
Insight-full Physicists, as well,
Get that miniscule glimpse
Of the Majestic... UN-speak-able.
Can't be didacted aloud,
It's a language of the heart
And soul,
And NO amount of logico-linear
Verbiage,
Were it to pile up as high!
As Mount Olympus - no! Higher!
Could come remotely CLOSE
To... all that... is.
This next Cat knew a thing or two,
Wrote it,
Etched it,
Painted it,
Heard the "harmonies"
And hymned it in verse:
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To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.
--William Blake, "Auguries of Innocence"
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"Time" is not consulting
A Rolex wrist-watch
While awaiting Einstein's Train, nor,
Some slim shadow
Parsing a Sun-dial,
The instant before a hailing rain.
Time is... an arbitrary conceit,
And actually,
Greatly less than that.
[ November 20, 2006, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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All this stuff brings a poem to mind;
Can't, right off-hand,
Think of anyone who said it better:
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I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said:
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert.
Near them on the sand,
Half sunk,
A shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip
And sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd
On these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them
And the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
--- Percy Bysshe Shelley... 1817
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We are ALL standing on quick shifting sands.
Here,
Over there
(... there is ALWAYS an "over there"
which is supposed as Wonder-filled
and/or solute for interior ills)
Where I live,
There is sand & scrub
As far as my tiny eye might see.
It's a landscape... of the mind,
Nothing more,
Just cannot be.
I've found,
Those who imagine they are not
Situated thus,
Who suppose mighty works
And very tall commerce buildings
Are more than only momentary
Self congratulation,
Who make dust-mouthed mortals
Into finely sculpt marble busts, well,
These are usually those
Who would wreck and wrack
And disgrace other places,
Harry some other souls to ruin.
What super nation
Can do what?
LOL!
What superior histories
And received wisdoms,
Merely partially heard,
Will salve exactly... what?
Where ever did ol'
Ozymandias go?
[ November 18, 2006, 10:20 PM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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Know what you mean Chris,Gotta love Veterans Affairs DD. It takes me about four monthes to get an appointment for anything.It's a real tangled wrangle to get SOMEBODY
To pay heed, at times.
THEN,
When you get that appointment, at long last!
SOMEBODY else will call and cancel
And there you are,
A new appointment 3 months later. :confused:
I do some volunteer work,
As time and energy allows,
(.. in my specialty field
IE, addictions counseling)
And that alone... provides
As much pleasure as ANYTHING
Else that I do.
)
Legend's Give War Chance Tour is over! 41 Win 15 Lost 66 Yodl 1 Coward 3 Draw 1 MIA
in Strategic Command 2 Blitzkrieg and Weapons and Warfare
Posted
I shouldn't have busted up yer thread.
My apologies.
You are long-time and valued member,
I gotta show more respect.
See, old memories get mixed up
With brand new disgusts,
Well,
To DISSENT is "American"
As... apple pie,
As Chevrolet
(... hmmm, sounds FRENCH to me, LOL!
)
Or July 4th fireworks
Exploding over the Potomac.
Let's see... as I recall my History,
The American Revolution
Caused tremendous friction
Between families.
Father VS Son.
Brother VS Sister.
Neighbor VS Neighbor.
Like now, eh?
Though,
I still think you should remove
That "coward" part.
From my reading of all that took place,
I don't see it
Where anybody WAS a coward.