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Well, well,Originally posted by vveedd:I do realize that. Still, difference between first and second part of the game should be much bigger then we had in SC games case. And this is not my opinion; it is general public opinion for all PC games. Original SC2 release was step forward after SC1 but too little step. Actually if you excluded new graphic all other improvements should have been in Expansion Pack for SC1. With this Expansion Pack for SC2 it is big step forward. Of course, it is too early to be sure in this. We have to see this Expansion Pack first.
What do youse know!
My old pal! :eek:
Say, vveedd!
Since you are beta boy for that OTHER game
We know a bit about,
Can you do us a wee little favor?
If you please, tell us!
What can be EDITED in
That there other game?
Details.
Be specific as you can.
I would REALLY like to know!
(... thatta way... I can COMPARE the 2
and see which ALLOWS the very best
options for any "modders," know
what I'se means? )
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And,Targul the Wise:I am presently in my first game of human vs human and I find it really horrible. It is so ahistorical it feels like a fantasy game.
Do most games with human players end up with the players attempting to take every country in some race to capture the world. Or do some players play quasi historical and not attack Sweden, Switzerland, Vichy France, Algeria and every single place they can reach.
I have pretty much decided to stick with AI play because it does play historically and I really enjoy playing against what happen.
Please let me know because I like the AI game but as it stands I never intend to play another human because if I want fantasy I play Civ.
And,That is my problem no consequences in game terms for invading.I know there was a plan to invade Switzerland but it was solved by agreement prior to the actual attack by Germany. The French colonies do not bother me.
Sweden I really do not see the Axis invading but your allies would certainly question an invasion. It would have given thought to Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria I suspect.
Ireland I really doubt would have been invaded by either side but no consequences.
There is a diplomactic part to the game but nothing changes any opionions except diplomacy points? Churchill can attack Norway, Ireland, Portugal, Spain and whatever and the other nations would consider that okay. Not sure that much fantasy is where I want to be.
I have stuck with games that where normally historical. War in Europe, Campaign for North Africa, War in the Pacific, Third Reich and Advanced. Each time I played a computer game without what I consider real limits on diplomacy I have backed off play.
Luckily with this game I can play historically against the AI but I will have to really consider if I want to play a fantasy game against humans using WWII as the backdrop.
1,2,3 - bang, bang, bang,Thanks for your opinions seems that many agree with my ideas here.I really enjoy the AI game it plays historically and I find alot of fun but I am doubtful I will play again verses a human unless I am sure we are going to have some history involved.
I dont mind people invading something different but there should be reasons behind it not just random slaughter.
Have fun catch you all after my rafting vacation.
Just like Buffalo Bill Cody shootin'
The eyes right outta the bull (...sh*t).
I want this repeated,
So everyone can see now & anew
HOW the superior WW-2 GS game should be.
From the apex of BF,
To the nadir which is me,
A fine reminder.
Could NOT have said it any better
So I desist, and let this be a lesson.
If this thread dwindles
Into wisps of forgotten cobweb,
I'll bump it, and again, and again,
Then I get back.
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It ain't enny matter of being "frightened,"Dave and Minty, both of you. It's true the collection of something from an Organization of Hardcore Murderers seems frightening.Not EVEN close, rather
Remaining - unto Omega... ever VIGILANT.
If there is going to be a Nazi revival,
Anywhere - it will be in America.
The White Cats are, increasingly,
Fearful their (... largely) ill-begotten gains
Will be snatched away by the Hordes.
It's a huge topic, covering
2500 years of human history,
And NO WAY can we do it justice
Here and now.
I'll mention that both you and Minty
Have made some valid points,
And each in your own unique way,
Being better, more "understandable"
Writers than I.
I can respect that.
If foreign troops were occupying YOURThough Right now as we speak, in a school in Iran Mickey Mouse is saying, "Burn the Infidel Americans," And then he's hugging and kissing the kiddies!Land, oh, let's say for nearly
A whole Century now,
How would you - personally,
Take that?
Would you stand idly by while these
Foreign occupiers tromped all over
Your most cherished, sacred, holy
And private places?
I think not.
America's fealty to Israel is opportunistic
And, likely, IMHO, will merely continue
So long as there is OIL to be had.
OTOH, yep, these COWARDS who would kill
Innocents,
In the name of their god,
Are as... anathema.
We got 'em here in USA too.
Enough for now... I am out of Town
For a week or 2 or 3 depending
On what happens where I am going.
Yet... finally, curiosity surely
Intrigues any old alley cat, as me:
Are you of the female persuasion,And to say all this being a female could be worse than all of the above!So to speak?
If so, you've fooled!
The magic flute right outta my mouth!
[ May 23, 2007, 06:56 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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I still don't see where you NAME anyone,That's why I say you people have issues.Nor, what "issue" you are talking about.
Some general, dry as dust comment, as tho
You were some clean-hand academic
Squeaking yer chalk on a black-board.
But, I'll say it out - plain.
These creeping out-of-the-crypt
Pansy-ass Neo-Fascists are scum.
The kind of scum you would find
In a toilet
Hasnt' been flushed since August, 1945.
Whenever I find one of these
Sorts of prick-less punks,
I most fervently hope there are no
Cops around - not for 50 miles
In any direction,
Nor,
No ACLU neither.
That's when I'm feeling charitable.
As for Lorelie and Hardy-har-har
(... AKA: Clay & Goren)
I ain't gettin'
Yer message.
Say it straight out,
Stand up,
Be a man
Has got a soul.
What the hell are you 2
Cutesy-pie Cats - talking about? :confused:
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UN-confuse yerself Bad Cat.Originally posted by Minty:Er.... I'm confused
On the collecting SS material front you people have issues. Each to their own and all. But you have serious issues.
However I strongly suggest you see the following link on You tube. Very amusing.
WHO, quite specifically,
Has these so-called... "issues."
And, quite specifically,
What ARE those issues.
I for one would really like to know
The answers.
Enumerate, and elaborate.
Let's hear it, man.
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True cool idea!Originally posted by John DiFool the 2nd:Just a matter of time before Terif pulls another rabbit (or something) out of his hat. I've lost faith that any of you guys can beat him...
[Trying some reverse psychology for a change]
Let me try that... "Boy howdy!
Sure is great!
We ain't got yer l-o-o-o-n-g ago
PROMISED
Battle of the Atlantic!"
Well,
Soon enough - MAY be
You'll have some X-tra ordinary ammunition
To work with!
Now wouldn't THAT be 'at Cat's meow! :cool:
Yep, I echo/yodel the sentiments here.
BOTH these guys are top-tier
Players.
Though,
BOTH - can be had,
Since,
They haven't even played the next!
Great gunner/slinger
Poised, oh, over to OK-Corral,
Not making much noise - just now,
And for better OR worse
Depending if you go - forward
Or in reverse... not much regarded
As ANYBODY's pal.
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SM is a true cool
Alchemical Cat,
This I know. :cool:
Took time out from VERY hectic schedule
To help me
On a little project of mine.
I tend to implicitly trust
What he says, and BTW,
Brad - all the best on preparing
For the hurricane season
Down there on the Gulf rim.
As we know,
CAN be terrible trial & trouble
And you have to be prepared.
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Blash Mon,Originally posted by Blashy:It is not history vs. balance it is historical balance and relevance.
If you want to invade the whole of Europe go right ahead, but to just have every country sit by and do nothing is just nonsense.
This can be rectified while still keeping balance.
Agree, has got it - figured.
And,
Has had, all throughout this thread.
This ain't enny - either/or sorta
Manichean thing.
NOTHING in this whole wide world,
Is.
Man, some changes a'comin' - galore!
What more, SC Scat Cats!
Could you ask for? :cool:
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Where in dickens you been, ramblin' dude?Originally posted by jon_j_rambo:@T-Blashy --- Dude, you don't have a clue about the game or history. The game is simple, MMPs over the long haul is a trump card.
Far as history. Who is going to stop anybody from trashing the little guys? It's ALWAYS the United States Get us mad enough, and Uncle Sam will make a housecall.
Now get back to work & sign up for some political science courses at a credible school...not that bleeding heart liberal professor socialist stuff in Canada.
Setting the record straight,
-Legend
Inspectin' pipe-lines
Up 'er in Alaska?
Abetting the Governor's attempt
To destroy what little
Pristine wilderness - we got left?
Or was it?
STUCK in Mobile?
With them Memphis Blues - again?
No doubt,
On yer be-bop hip-hop
On along to Beale Street,
(... since, strangely, you ain't a'knowin'
nuthin' much 'bout them there cross-roads
whereat Johnson had his Faustian
joust with the Devil? - HiWay 61?)
You stopped over - at Bayou Teche?
Paid reverent respects
To ol' Jimmy Swag, him?
How IS that groaning old poet?
(... man, WAS he EVER, once; surely
one of the top 2 or 3 - along with
that great Canadian, Leonard Cohen...the last
60 years, at least... IMHO),
Now 'is once-swarming congregation hast
Got up, and - like fire-flies
Then the advent of sun-rise... went?
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With an aircraft from the Vatican. </font>Originally posted by Ottosmops:</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jon_j_rambo:
Question: How did the Buntas get to Brazil?
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Better thatSorry Queenie, you might just get your feet wet.Than being royally insulted
By a bad-seed Boy-King
All dressed up in faux
Cowboy clothes.
Well,
Maybe better them - Dude duds
Than twirling about with a go
Mighty Ivy! - go!
Megaphone.
Some are ever intended,
It seems - to be a cheer-leader
Though,
Never... enny prime-time player.
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And, doggone!
If TEN (10) of above weren't SUNK
In - gee, unbelievable!
The Mediterannean Seas!
So much for U-boots not able
To navigate past
Gibraltar rock.
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Battleships:Liam:Though historically did U-boats challenge the RN? I highly doubt that challenged a tugboat that was adaquetly armed! They did however starve the home Isles
1) BARHAM (31,100t, 1915), sunk by U-boat torpedoes, off Sollum, Egypt, November 25, 1941
2) ROYAL OAK (29,150t, 1916), sunk by U-boat torpedo, Scapa Flow, Orkneys, October 14, 1939
AIRCRAFT CARRIERS:
Fleet carriers
3) ARK ROYAL (22,000t, 1938), torpedoed (13th) by U-boat and sunk, W Mediterranean, November 14, 1941
4) COURAGEOUS (22,500t, 1917, ex-cruiser, carrier from 1928), sunk by U-boat torpedo W of Ireland, September 17, 1939
5) EAGLE (22,600t, 1924), sunk by U-boat torpedo, W Mediterranean, August 11, 1942
Escort carriers
6) AUDACITY (ex-Hannover, German prize, 11,000t deep, 1939; as 9/41), sunk by U-boat torpedo, N Atlantic, December 21, 1941
7) AVENGER (13,785t deep, 2/3/42), sunk by U-boat torpedo, W of Gibraltar Straits, November 15, 1942
CRUISERS
8) BONAVENTURE (5,450t, 24/5/40), sunk by U-boat torpedoes, S of Crete, March 31, 1941
9) CAIRO (AA ship, 4,200t, 1919), sunk by U-boat torpedo, off Bizerta, Tunis, August 12, 1942
10) CALYPSO (4,180t, 1917), sunk by U-boat torpedo, S of Crete, June 12, 1940
11) DUNEDIN (4,850t, 1919), sunk by U-boat torpedo, between W Africa and Brazil, November 24, 1941
12) EDINBURGH (10,000t, 6/7/39), sunk by destroyer, torpedoes, after U-boat damage (30th Apr), Barent's Sea, Arctic, May 2, 1942
13) GALATEA (5,220t, 1935), sunk by U-boat torpedo, off Alexandria, December 14, 1941
14) HERMIONE (5,450t, 25/3/41), sunk by U-boat torpedo, E Mediterranean, June 16, 1942
15) NAIAD (5,450t, 24/7/40), sunk by U-boat torpedo, E Mediterranean,, March 11 1942
16) PENELOPE (5,270t, 1936), sunk by U-boat, torpedeo, Anzio area, W Italy, February 18, 1944
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Scanning above list, SEEMS to be
LOTS of "armed Tug-boats" sunk by them
Piddling little U-boots
With their torpedo pea-shooters, eh?
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LOL,Originally posted by Retributar:AS 'Sir Percy' in the Movie... 'The Scarlet Pimpernel' used to so often reiterate!... "Ohhh!...Sink Me!!!".
Ah me,
Good to see some odd-fashioned Eidolons
Now and then.
Hmmm... seems to erupt forth from Canadians :cool:
More than what's usual - hey maybe?
Due to all that vast and yet
Mostly pristine wilderness
You guys got?
For awhile longer, ennyhow.
Tends to OPEN up the mind, I'd guess?
Notso many brainwashed
Into the terribly circumscribed confines
Of "group-think."
Youda fit in mighty fine, Retributar,
With them other sorts
Of spontaneous-speaking
Rip-around tripping American flakes,
The REAL deal ones
We usta have in road-going abundance
(... though, alas, notso very many
enny more, it's - sacre bleu - a shame,
I say )
IE... The Beats.
You and Ginsberg & Burroughs
And Kerouac having lunch
With them other late sprawling
Night-hawks,
A naked lunch, uh huh,
With rhyme & UN-reason crawling out the end
Of them NON-confined - fork-tines.
Well,
What's this got to do with Norway
The nuts & bolts folks
Wish to know, eh?
Nuthin' much... other than,
THE FACT
That EVERY single thing
That has EVER occured
In the immensely BRIEF time
Of this our infinite Universe
Is... connected.
Somehow.
Richard apparently Groks
An off-beat, jittering smatter of this
And, that, too!
[ May 02, 2007, 06:06 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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And!
Not only that,
But what of... Vichy France
And Switzerland?
Why weren't they attacked
During the real deal war?
Again,
It SEEMS as though MANY Axis
Players pile up them MPP's
Doing just that, eh?
IF the players are aggregating
MORE MPP's than would,
Or should be the case,
THEN they are accumulating excessive
Monies (... and morale)
So to exaggerate the ACTUAL ability
Of Axis to conduct
Wide-spread conflict.
Argue all you want about
How everything is in apple-pie order,
BUT,
I say - some of these conquests
Exceed the norm,
And careen off into the X-treme
A bit too often.
Same for the Middle East.
Since when did FM Rommel
Have such a swift! Kick 'em
Around time of it?
Why should it be so freakin' easy
For Axis to take Egypt
And Syria and Iraq and Iran?
Apparently,
And again - going by AAR's I have read,
It seems to go
WAY beyond the pale,
And over the river and
Into the neon-lighted dale.
Or,
Am I missing the GIST of this? :confused:
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Well,
Reading over the AAR's,
And listening to such discussions
As above and elsewhere, it seems,
I say - SEEMS as though most players,
Whether Axis or, even Allied,
Think it an advantageous tactic
To attack and,
Fairly easily - conquer Spain.
Now,
I gotta ask - how historical?
Is the "what-if" MOSTLY
Become - a sorta-gotta have?
It... seems so? No?
Did it happen, in
Real deal War - as that?
If not,
Why not?
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Simply, Spain has become just TOO "pivotal"
A real-politik player,
In the grand scheme of things.
Seems as though some - Occam's Razor
Sort of tweaking is needed, IMO.
NO WAY Hitler lets his resentment
(... having helped Franco win the Civil War)
Interfere with his over-riding
Necessity - nay, his dumb OBSESSION to secure
That hyper-propagandized "liebensraum."
In real deal WW-2 anyhow.
Playing it out, well, that's another story,
And,
No doubt Liam's so-called premier players
Have gotten it gamed pret' good.
[... no doubt! They ARE good, they just
haven't played much beyond that small
circle of dedicated competitors... that'll
probably change in due time ]
As is, it's not enough.
Not by a long shot.
Needs be some creative re-thinking
RE: that whole - Southern Crescent,
Madrid -> Gibraltar -> Tunis ->
Cairo -> Baghdad -> Tehran.
Diplomatically, and militarily.
Game ain't "balanced" if the "what-ifs"
Become... unreal BIG difference makers.
[ April 27, 2007, 04:03 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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After you been around awhile
You get to know - a TINY mite,
How Skando Mondo does
His OWN thing.
ALWAYS.
Seems, some times, he is "going straight."
Yet,
Since Loki is ever hanging out
'Is tattered back pocket,
Like some - HiWay 61
Hiker's hitch-kerchief,
Hard to say just WHAT he means.
Usually. :confused:
Well,
The 2 WW-2 Cats I like the finest
Are - Bill Mauldin's
Willie & Joe. :cool:
Wonder if fandango Skando or, Loki
The tag-along Imp
With eyes like broken bits of ice
Knows them 2 super cool heroes?
[ April 24, 2007, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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I'd agree with that idea Blash Mon.I have always been in favor of a mandatory 2-3 year service for everyone once you reach the age of 18.I'd have it, for USA anyhow, as this:
Once graduated from high school,
You'd have three choices:
1) Armed Forces
2) VISTA (... volunteers in service to America)
3) Peace Corps
You would ONLY have to do ONE year
Of whichever one you would want.
IF you decided to do the 2nd year,
THEN you'd get the "bonus benefits,"
IE, what all US Soldiers get
In the way of VA
(... NOW! Finally!
As per the common folk's wishes! Updated
To minimun modern standards, at least,
at last)
And college assistance and home-buyer
Loans and the like.
IMO, we'd soon enough see
FEWER bangers and hangers-around
And plain old nihilist punks,
And more of those have got that
Great sort of "honor & integrity"
CODE ... instilled,
Willingly - same as them Knights of Olde.
Mostly had - natural-like,
Inspirit,
Inside out. :cool:
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Ain't NOBODY - and I been around the block,Hats off to these guys and everyone else who has become part of the SC2 community... and for my part I just hope I can continue to deliver up to standard.Playing these WW-2 kinda games
For a doggone long time,
Done it QUITE like Mondo Mojo has.
Yep, EVERYBODY - Jake, Juke, the Rake,
Luke... has had a cool hand
In this here premier production,
Not merely the cadre of testers. :cool:
Thing is this, as I see it:
The rest of them PRETENDERS out there,
Are,
Apparently?
So awful wring-hand
Worried about KEEPING secrets,
And preventing all the potential "modders"
From doing damn near ANYTHING
With their same-old, limping lame games,
Due to - lack of "community sharing"
Personality Trait, perhaps?
Which Mondo Mojo has
In abounding abundance?
Well,
I myself have been honored
To contribute what LITTLE I have
Thus far up & done.
EVERYBODY - going back 5 + years
Has done their persistent part, too.
And that's - mighty monumental cool. :cool:
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There are a few flaws in above mentioned
Tactics, which,
I won't relate in toto since I might
Have to play - the Myth ist?
Once the draw for the future
Slingers VS Gunners
Super-SC tournament is set.
Though,
I'm more than a little dis-satisified
With CA's having ANY shore-bombardment
Capability (... should be = 0),
And BB's - merely "1," IMHO.
Not only that,
But... may be - as Hubert has ALREADY
Suggested,
Different sorts of Bombers next time around?
Who knows, we'll have to see what
Sleek winged creature-machine
Rolls down the run-way, eh?
Besides,
Re-taking Brest is good "experience training"
For the GErman fighter/interceptors,
Not to mention,
Same being true for naval bombers
Cracking down!
In shrieking! lightning strikes
Upon them cumbersome old
UK Battle Wagens.
No air umbrella for them
Obsolete dread-NOTS, I guess?
Air being hid a'way up in Scot Highlands
It seems?
LOTS of spry antidote to above, as I say.
MOST of which shall remain secreted
In ein kleine box with a ribbon
Wound 'round it,
Just in case, ah,
In the event of later surprise.
Playing Terif,
One SURELY would need ALL the tiniest
Advantages one might muster, yep,
Mister Bo - with them get-go riffs.
Since,
As we suspect - ain't NO LUCK involved,
And this particular Cat ain't gone CHOOSE
To lose,
Should the tourney draw
Set such-like match-play stage.
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A Mercenary Army is never enny good.As for the Pains of War, many of these boys volunteer to go.Never ever ever never.
I say - bring back the draft.
NO deferments of ANY kind,
No 2-S for collegiate evaders,
No "family business" exceptions,
No "buy-outs" for rich kids,
No faked physical or mental dis-ease
(...yeah, they ARE diseased alright,
diseased with cowardice)
And! No farm boys excused
(... ain't hardly none of them little
"homestead farms" left anyhow, as my Grand Dad
had stolen by 'em fat & crass bankers during
the FIRST Great Depression... 2nd is on
the way, sad to say...)
All Congressional Reps sons & daughters
Are eligible at age 18,
You see what I mean... thatta way,
You'd cut these illegal, UN-Constitutional,
And "pre-emptive" and unjust wars
By, oh - I'd guess - 98%? :cool:
Not to mention - get rid of them
"Civilian Armies" we got now,
Working for them war-profiteering
Mega-Corps, IE,
The private mercenaries
Getting paid a King's Ransom,
Running around with NO
Professional military oversight,yep
Doing plenty of un-holy death-dealing
For the Military Industrial Complex.
Lots of those guys
Are near socio-pathic freaks. :eek:
(... good ol' Ike, General Eisenhower
WARNED us about that in 1959)
Comes down to legitimate National defense,
I'd STILL volunteer,
As I did in 1966,
NO MATTER I am over 50 years old.
O/W, fine and thoughtful
Commentary all around Liam.
[ April 23, 2007, 05:47 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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The Man with a plan.Originally posted by foko:I think the easiest way to keep GB down, is buy 2 german bomber and bombard Liverpool.
Wenn Liverpool is < 5 the convoy can not be unloaded and GB is getting max 50 MPP.
When starting sommer 40, doing this konsequent the poor Tommies will not survive long term
Very surprised more folks don't do this. :confused:
I'd imagine,
UK could use another port,
Farther north, let's say - Glasgow?
**AND,
I would have it where it is NOT automatic
That ALL convoy income immediately ceases
Merely because the port is less than 5.
The income could be "pro-rated" according
To Port size, IE,
Size 5> would allow 100% income
Size 4 = 80%
Size 3 = 60%
Size 2 = 40%
Size 1 = 20%
Size 0 = 0%
[... ALL activities don't cease COMPLETELY
just because of some bomb damage,
that's hardly realistic or likely]
As is, yer right foko,
The VERY apparently UNDER utilised
GErman bombers
CAN indeed cut them convoys fair easily.
Yeah yeah, I know,
Invest in AA.
Yeah yeah I keep hearing - the game
Is balanced as is,
Don't!
Do nuthin!
LOL, yea, it MIGHT be to those
Who've got the thing gamed.
Well, you either keep moving & improving
Or you get stuck with... ugly exploits.
Tell you what, I'll provide escorts,
And trade damage with the Spits,
And knock them ports down
Below 5,
And keep 'em there for the duration.
It ain't so hard, nor as costly
As you might suppose.
[ April 23, 2007, 05:18 AM: Message edited by: Desert Dave ]
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Today is "officially"... Earth Day.Just goes to show how far we have to go before we really become 'evolved'.Hooray!
I celebrate that and those... 10 newly bloomed
Daffodils up on my hill-side!
IF we might - somehow, save
These hacking, gasping lands
Which belong to ALL of us,
Equally,
Maybe?
One fine, sun-beaming day?
Figure a way
To QUIT all the sense-less quarreling
Over... things.
Inside out,
It's the ONLY way it could work,
As I've discovered while
Trying to get life-long "addicts"
OFF their drug dependencies.
Then again,
MANY are the items nowadays
That we might term - "drugs."
As,
For one instance,
The War-mongering/Gun-fondling
Kind of retrograde and base "addiction"
We have TOO MUCH of... over here.
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Now,
Back to war-games - which I LOVE to play
BTW, no matter some of the things
I essay... VERY much looking FORWARD!
To the next tournament
(... I once proposed, but, gee whiz,
nobody wanted it)
Which would be... Old Slingers
VS - them Young Gunners.
IE, them over 40
Years of age - on one side,
Them 39.99 and under,
On the other.
THAT would be a shoot-out
Would surely interest me.
See if?
Us old-timers could still hold our own? LOL!
Germany Industrial Tech is Nerfed!
in Strategic Command 2 Blitzkrieg and Weapons and Warfare
Posted
Perhaps the GErman I.T. percentage
Needs be boosted a bit.
[... you can mod this, but I am
thinking... maybe for default '39
and appropriate scenarios]
Possibly... same for UK.
Thatta way, the investment would
Be well worth anybody's while.