British Tommy

I must say I didn't see many overly negative comments over at the Proving Grounds when CMx1 scenario's were being uploaded daily. Sure, you always find someone who is not very diplomatic when posting feedback but good 'negative' feedback helps improves the scenario (if the designer decides to act on the comments). One excellent tip given to me many years ago by (I think) Mad Russian was, make a small scenario first and once you got that right and gained confidence, move onto something bigger. Never start off big! (except if your George Mc ) And good luck with your 16 mission campaign. How long did it take you to put together?

I agree, CMSF scenario designers should have advantage when it comes to working with the editor. But are those designers interested in designing WW2 scenario's? There is one scenario designer I hold in high esteem when it comes to putting together large (and huge!) historical scenario's and that is GEORGE MC. I know he's put together CMSF scenario's but I bet he's rubbing his hands together with glee working with CM Normandy. Hopefully there will be some of his work included when the game is released. For the small to medium sized historical scenario's you can't beat Mad Russian. I also hope he starts work on them once CM Normandy is released.

Last I heard, Gary will be looking into including CM Normandy scenario's for both sites. I think it depends on the size of the files though.

I don't think so. I'm guessing the CM Normandy editor will be more complex than the CMx1 editor so this alone will slow down budding scenario makers. Plus keep in mind when they do start appearing, you will have to sort out the wheat from the chaff. This was done superbly by Gary when he set up the Proving ground (place to test your scenario's) and once the major bugs had been ironed out by play testers, the designer could move them over to the Scenario Depot (we are talking CMx1 scenario's) or BF's repository. Of course no scenario designer has to do this but I think it would be wise to give the scenario a good workout by play testers otherwise you could be sending out a turkey and players will avoid your next offerings.

Gold star for that man! That's the best answer so far.

why not just simply answer the question instead of going around it? Maybe some one who knows the answer will post here

Good to see other people have noticed this. Hopefully more people can post here without being jumped on.

I still play AK and BB every day (mostly via PBEM) and I'm still not tired of them Also, thanks to CMx1 I have made many good friends over the years and shook hands with some of them. As for CMSF, I have tried it twice but it's not for me.

Been reading this thread with interest and thought I would share my views I must admit I was surprised to see BF charging for patching AK and BB. Both games are old but much loved by many players worldwide. It has been the players (and clubs) who helped extend the life span of both games by giving away for free scenario's, operations, mods and articles explaining about tactics, weapons etc. Part of my surprise I have to say is the complete turn around by BF. Countless times players mentioned the Vista problem and every time we were told, 'it's an old game and there will be no more patches'. As a self confessed fanboy of the CMx1 games, I just glad BF has seen the light and made it possible to play the games on Vista but charging for the patch? Hmmm....

No one from BF is listening any more. They have turned their backs on the CMx1 games. The only people who listen now are the players.

As long as the company continues to sell the games and make a profit from them.

That's it lads, no support from BF with this problem so it's down to us to sort out the problems. I can only hope in a few years time they sell the CMx1 games but it will be awhile until sales of the CMx1 games falls away to nothing. Such a waste of two great games

....... and it fell on stoney ground

Then may I suggest that BF posts here saying that they will approach Nvidia but need customer support to do so. I think Moon you will be very surprised how many will step forward and support BF's action. Many voices shouting together will be heard!

And the answer to your question: "You should probably send your plea to Nvidia to fix their Vista drivers. We're not going to "patch" to "break" the game, only to unbreak it when Nvidia fixes their end. Sorry." This is the offical Battlefront stand and I think it sucks big time. So loyal CMx1 players, we are on our own here. CMC??? It will be useless when and if it ever goes on sale. Why? read this thread!

Der Alte Fritz, I followed your settings then ran BB and then AK. The result??? Well let's just say you put a big smile on my face! Amazing, no more spinning background and though it's still slightly jerky moving around the map, I don't care as I can again play my beloved war games! Thanks mate, I owe you one.

Here's my problems in plain English 1) the background and map edges spin around when I move around the map. This happens with AK and BB. 2) when I come to save a PBEM turn, the background and buttons are in black. This can be over come by simply changing the turn number and hitting the enter key on the key board. 3) when the replay ends, I get a sound loop. Again, not a big problem. 4) when moving around the map, the screen is jerky and slow. reminds me of playing a huge scenario on an old computer. It's number one above which is causing the biggest problem. I have tried changing settings in the Nvidia control panel but so far nothing helps Only thing I could try is going back to the old driver but I haven't a clue how to roll back to the old one. I know you can do that in the control panel (I think) but where? And thank you for asking how the problems show up in CMx1. PS, my graphics card is a Geforce 8400 GS.

Sheep mentality??? I have no idea where you live but here all the computer shops sell new computers with Vista (unless you go the Mac route). You CANNOT buy XP here so we are stuck with Vista. So please stop talking down to us with less computer savvy than you.

The impression I getting here is that BF will not do anything concerning this problem but just leave it to the players to sort out. Backing from BF would help get this problem noticed.

In future Battlefront should attach a sticker to the front of any CMx1 games they sell. It should read, ' if this game fails to run on your computer, it's not our fault but Nvidia. Should you insist on trying to run your brand new game, then we suggest you remove your new graphics card and replace it with a older model' Other option is, stop selling the CMx1 games!!

It's not a case of not wanting to do the homework. I never knew there was a place to report such things so my first port of call was here. Just keep in mind mate that not every one is computer savvy as you!

I hope this does not fall on deaf ears after reading you have abandoned the CMx1 series. Please could you bring out a patch so we can continue playing AK and BB on computers running Vista. Yes I know it's not Vista but the new graphic drivers which are causing the problems. You continue to sell the CMx1 games so I think bringing out a small patch to address this problem would be the least you could do. New customers trying to install AK or BB onto their computers with Vista are not going to be very pleased when they can't play their newly bought game! I very much doubt any one from the BF staff reads the CMx1 message boards but no harm in trying

I agree with Hans and GJK and I suspect many others do as well.

All I was trying to point out was that when CMSF was first released, it got hammered by player comments. If you don't believe me, just do a search on the internet. I just don't want to see it happen again. Like many others here I have my credit card ready to buy the next WW2 game and I look forward to designing scenarios with the new game and even been thinking about converting the ones I've made for CMx1 such as Storm 555. With so many excited players here, someone has to step forward and mention it.

Since when has BF been put under pressure from Paradox? I can't see Steve and the team losing sleep over it if they were. I can't find any other war games which are in the same class as BF's.