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    Is it only me, or is Elite mode too tedious?

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    Originally posted by Ali-Baba:

    Friendly spotting in elite is plain tedious. Group select is a pain in the a** and it is just more work for your mouse and memory. Nothing to add in the game imo. Keep the enemy FOW as is or make it even harder but drop completely the friendly units going invisible. Just doesnt feel right. I'd play veteran but the instant enemy intelligence makes it uninteresting.

    I agree COMPLETELY which is why I wanted to see if anyone else still cares about this issue.

    I would like to see this fix:

    "Keep the enemy FOW as is or make it even harder but drop completely the friendly units going invisible. Just doesnt feel right."

    in V1.04 or in the future in v1.05

    Thanks smile.gif

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    Friendly spotting

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    I am talking about Elite FOW

    The unit next to your own friendly unit (WITH visual contact) diplays as a ? and you don't see the unit until you click on its HQ unit or click on the map to deselet all units.

    In Elite FOW if you select an inf squad, ALL other icons of other units not subordinate in the chain of command to the inf squad you selected turn into ?'s AND you can't band box select them in a group selection. That is an issue for me.

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    When should we start refreshing for 1.04

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    Originally posted by KNac:

    you are gonna see development of this engine for a while so i wouldn't worry about it. maybe patches come slower cause nthey are trying to get solid patches and not 'quick buggy fixes' and getting more improvements. maybe they are trying to squat a big bug or fix stuff like the nvidia so it's taking its time.

    i hope we get it next week though

    maybe most of that is for the most part largely a correct assessment of the current patch development stage/situation

    ;)

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    When should we start refreshing for 1.04

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    The last thing Steve said is still the case. (see the note below)

    I know this was seven days ago but the testing and the work has not stopped, however nothing worthly of a release with the name "v1.04" on it has yet to raise its ugly head. I hope I did not break any NDA rules. Steve mentioned speed optimizations and they have taken a little longer then was first envisioned I think. smile.gif The testing is continueing everyday, and everytime someone reports their card gives them performance like Steve mentioned (1.2 fps) then it just takes longer. Something like this Steve mentioned: " So he's got to take it out and we have to retest again. That's thrown off our schedule."

    Sort the old fall back:

    "Not yet"

    And the old favourite

    "When its ready"

    We were hoping to have v1.04 wrapped up tomorrow, but that isn't going to happen. A speed optimization Charles stuck in worked GREAT for most of us, but actually put a couple of testers down to 1.2fps in some cases. To which Charles said "oh yeah... now I remember why I didn't put that in before" So he's got to take it out and we have to retest again. That's thrown off our schedule.

    As a quick preview, here are some things v1.04 will have:

    1. More pathfinding fixes.

    2. Hopefully the berm/hill shoot through problem is over and done with now!

    3. Various TacAI issues tweaked

    4. Commands at different Waypoints now works correctly

    5. Stuck unit/soldier bug fixed

    Lots of other stuff too.

    Steve

    [ September 20, 2007, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: aka_tom_w ]

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    Group Think - What the hell were you thinking?

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    "Assuming the overall group thought it was ready - that's the judgemnet I was attacking. "

    FOR sure, if they could post and not get into trouble with the NDA, I would take a WILD guess and suggest, they would all say, they knew it was not ready for prime time!

    "Ok, it was a contract dead line that predicated the release in an unfinished state, not beta-tester concurrence it was "ready". Now I understand. "

    I think you can be pretty sure you have right now, it has NOTHING to do with NASA or the Challenger disaster or "group think". There was a deadline and the game HAD to go off to reproduction "ready or not". There was a HARD deadline and they met that deadline.

    [ September 16, 2007, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: aka_tom_w ]

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    Group Think - What the hell were you thinking?

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    Originally posted by Elmar Bijlsma:

    Lt.Belenko,

    I understand your disappointment. I guess you, like most of us, hoped for something a bit more finished. However I must profess bafflement as to you still 'playing' v1.00, which shouldn't even be a release version! Why not play 1.03? You are now judging a product without technically ever having played the official release. That's an unreasonable position to take.

    As a beta tester I must admit I am somewhat unappreciative of your comments regarding the beta testers. In part because your speculation is off the mark, but also because we testers are under a NDA. So what happens in beta stays in beta. It's kinda hurtful to see such speculation when we have our hands tied in such discussions.

    Suffice to say we are neither blind, dimwitted nor so far up BFC's arse we can't see daylight.

    I agree with Elmar.

    To Lt Belenko, I say this:

    There were LOTS of beta testers, they were ALL under NDA, a real legal document to prevent disclosure of private issues in a private process in the development cycle of the game. The NDA is still in effect, and posting here with their hands tied may be about all they can do to respond to your comments. :eek:

    [ September 15, 2007, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: aka_tom_w ]

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    My Grunts simply are too slow

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    I think you are asking for too much

    the truth of the matter is I don't think the game can know these things:

    "The game should be able to know......"

    Once again the action spots are part of the foundation of why a game of this scope can run on computer hardware perhaps 2-3 years old (granted computers threes old are really only good at WEGO and not RealTiime.)

    So....

    There must be a very valid technical reason why they had to "invoke" the action spot principle, and IIRC it had to do with spoting and LOS and LOF for EVERY unit and every terrain element ALL over the map and the only way the game could "come together" and run at any decent FPS (and yes they are still working on this aspect of FPS speed) was for the action spot concept to determine how to run/process spotting LOS/LOF checks all over the map without totally overwhelming the processor and the game engine.

    IIRC

    IMHO

    and all that...

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    My Grunts simply are too slow

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    The bunching up at way points thing is sort of a "big deal" to fix or undo code wise in the game engine IIRC. (I think there was a post about this somewhere that the way points and "re-grouping" behaviour was the foundation of something or other, but its a little hazy in my head now) :confused:

    The best way to work around it is to use less way points and expect a "regrouping" episode at every way point.

    For instance the guys in the back of the stryker can be ordered to "Assault" and you can park the stryker and put the way point directly into the building. Just pick the 9 man team on board the stryker, order Assualt and put the way point in the building (pick the first floor, probably), and let the game do the rest. (Suppress the hell out of the building and every other building within LOS if possible, of course) with no other way points inbetween right?

    How's that?

    smile.gif

    [ September 14, 2007, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: aka_tom_w ]

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    When should we start refreshing for 1.04

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    Well then I guess today is just another day leading up to Christmas.

    How many more days until Christmas?

    smile.gif

    Yesterday on Sept 13 Steve said:

    We were hoping to have v1.04 wrapped up tomorrow, but that isn't going to happen. A speed optimization Charles stuck in worked GREAT for most of us, but actually put a couple of testers down to 1.2fps in some cases. To which Charles said "oh yeah... now I remember why I didn't put that in before" So he's got to take it out and we have to retest again. That's thrown off our schedule.
    To me that says:

    "Maybe sometime next week" :cool:

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    My Grunts simply are too slow

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    ok then

    "Just an educated guess, but it doesn't look like they're doing any kind of animation blending, so essentially - don't expect the soldiers to ever do more than a single action at once. For example - notice how soldiers have to stop running before they can rotate/turn, or how they never shoot while on the move."

    Good point

    I wonder if down the road in the next module with Marines perhaps they can take the next step towards animation blending if that is even technically possible. (?)

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    When should we start refreshing for 1.04

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    Originally posted by Jamm0r:

    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Battlefront.com:

    A speed optimization Charles stuck in worked GREAT for most of us, but actually put a couple of testers down to 1.2fps in some cases. To which Charles said "oh yeah... now I remember why I didn't put that in before" :D So he's got to take it out and we have to retest again. That's thrown off our schedule.

    A couple of testers sounds like a minority to me, why not make the optimization optional via the UI?? </font>
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    My Review

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    No one here has come right out and said it, so I will, for the time being one much loved feature of the CMx1 was TCP/IP WEGO.

    TCP/IP WEGO is missing from CMSF, but, you can still play WEGO via hotseat or via PBEM or against the computer AI and it IS WEGO.

    BUT there no network live action TCP/IP WEGO and by now I am sure they, (the good folks at BFC) KNOW ALL ABOUT IT.

    smile.gif

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    My Review

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    "Combat Mission Shock Force is a deep, complex and taxing game. Players who don’t want to invest time and effort into play may not enjoy it. However, gamers who want to have insight into the kind of operations the US appears to be doomed to undertake in the foreseeable future will be rewarded for waiting for the patches. This game goes beyond the gung-ho products of other franchises. The strengths and weaknesses of the “Western Way of War” in the modern era are shown here clearly. Finding the right mix of force, distance, and time challenges players to make truly tactical decisions. The rewards of success are visceral and watching a plan unfold with all the graphical nuances leaves players holding the breath. Failure is almost a personal loss. Any serious gamer should suffer through the not insignificant bugs—or wait for the patches—and get this game."

    Sounded like a fair review to me

    smile.gif

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