Do Americans prefer them Brits?

[lomir]

Brit weapons, I mean The sargeant and specialist pictured decided to swap their M4 carbines for a L85A2 with ACOG sights and a L110A2 (Minimi Para). Apart of the fact they are going to face a good scolding back in the base when they'll show up without their standard service rifles, what do you think? The debate is open

[ChrisND]

I've seen this bug before, but thought it had been fixed. If you can send me a save file I will report this. (PMing you my email address)

[Splinty]

Actually the Para version of the SAW is in pretty standard use throught the U.S. Army as well.

[lomir]

I've seen this bug before, but thought it had been fixed. If you can send me a save file I will report this. (PMing you my email address)

Excuse me Normal Dude, I didn't want it to look as if it might be a bug. It isn't The two Americans had their own M4s before they decided to plunder when doing buddy-aid to some British soldiers. So less work for Charles! But, there is something... Why "red" soldiers on the Blue Force can't pick up weapons from KIA/wounded "red" soldiers of the Red Force?? I could understand that a "blue" soldier wouldn't because he has never trained with this weapon before, but a "red" soldier uses the same weapons as the enemy, don't they? And that's the funny thing of the picture: true that the Minimi Para is used by U.S. forces and very similar/almost identical to the SAW to use, so it makes sense to pick up one, but the L85A2... I don't think that this American sergeant should swap the M4 he's been training with for years, for a weapon he's not used to shoot with. It's just my opinion. I wonder what's going to happen in CM:N... Would the Americans be able to pick up some German weapons?

Thanks for the fast answer, though. It's nice to see that BFC tries to repair any possible bug.

Cheers,

Lomir

[Sixxkiller]

You obviously have never fired the M4 if you think an American wouldnt pick up a L85 and take it home with him.

[GSX]

BF could answer this, but perhaps soldiers will pick up what is coded into the game as a more effective weapon? So if the L85A2 gets a bigger score then it will be swapped out for an M4?

[MikeyD]

The pre-Heckler Koch rebuild L85 was roundly despised by the British troops in the field. During the Kuwait war they complained of everything you could think of with the weapon, from being unbalanced weight to parts literally falling apart in their hands. Things have apparently been considerably improved (as great cost) since then.

One thing about L85A2, the barrel is a bit longer than a full-length M16. One scenario I did initial work on using U.S. Army as stand-ins for Brits. When I placed British units I had to completely redo my red AI movement orders because the Brits were dropping Red units at noticeably longer range than the M4-carrying yanks could.

[Yair Iny]

You obviously have never fired the M4 if you think an American wouldnt pick up a L85 and take it home with him.

Well, it's all relative you know. After lugging around a Galil, both long and short versions, (3.5 and 4.2 kg) throughout my regular Army service. When they finally gave us M4s in the reserves, I couldn't wipe the smile off my face the whole time I was there. Not only is the weapon way lighter, so are the mags!

[GSX]

The pre-Heckler Koch rebuild L85 was roundly despised by the British troops in the field.

Hmm, I would disagree with this. While there were certain aspects of the rifle that were prone to failings the A1 was a very decent weapon. As with all weapons it was improved upon, M-16 anyone?

Its always been a very accurate weapon but some of the parts were a llittle bit suspect. I remember converting to this from the SLR and was bowled over by its weight, well lack of it. Also, I could carry much more ammo for it and if anything it was more accurate. Yes. initially, the magazine catch for one was atrocious and your magazine could drop out at the most in-opportune of times.

Stoppages were a problem too as I remember as the extraction system wasnt as robust as it is now, but not whats billed as despised.

We also got the SUSAT, which was at a time when most countries still used an iron sight, including the US.

Anyway Sf is set in 2008, when the L85A2 had been modified. In all honesty though, since first firing the L85 I can count on one hand the times that it has failed to fire, and when it did, I always managed to get it going again in a few seconds. Except once when the firing pin broke.