scottsmm Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Is the German icon for this level a Panther tank, or is it a King Tiger? This doesn't really effect the game at all, but it's been bothering me every since I played my first SC2 game as the Germans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukkov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 what difference does it make? by the time you get it, the allies will bomb them to oblivion anyway. lol.. seriously, the current game i'm in, i've had 3 chits just to get level 3 heavy tanks since forever. nothing. naturally, the russkies had em since i invaded. now they have level 4 aircraft too. it's only 1942 for christ's sake! i noticed the americans came in with p51s (not sure what level that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukkov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 and while i'm thinking about it, do the russians get hq units for free? i kill 1 and 2 more pop up! lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsmm Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Zukkov, I've been playing this game for a while, and well it's annoying to know that I'm not certain what this tank is. I know every other tank/bomber/fighter unit type except for that. I learned most of them by playing CMAK and CMBB. BTW the Mustang (P51) is level four advanced aircraft (the Mustang was quite a marvelous aircraft that we built and with B 52 to accompany them we made every enemy of the United States pay dearly for attacking us and going to war with us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill101 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 It's a Panther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukkov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 thanks scotty. yah, i figured the p51 was level 4. it's just that it was too far away to see the number below it. i too have played cmak/bb/bo many times. oh and btw, the bomber the u.s. used in england was the b17. if i see b52s show up i'll register a formal complaint. lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arado234 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 The earliest I ever had ME262s was 1942. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsmm Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Thanks Bill I thought it was the Panther, it's just because of the size of the image being so small I wasn't sure if it could have been the King Tiger which imo is more than a deserving candidate for Germany heavy tank level 5 research. Zukkov, Your right and I just made a stupid mistake by saying B52, although if I was playing as the Allies I would be more than happy, to use B52 against the Axis, but I was wrong, and I meant to say B29. arado, That was the earliest I every got ME262 as well, the only problem was in that game I only had level 1 heavy tank research by 1942, but by the end of 43' I had level 5 heavy tank research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukkov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 wait... if the panther is 5, what's 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsmm Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Tiger. That's one of the main reasons I thought it could have been the Tiger II (King Tiger). Which would make sense if you think about it. Tiger I= level four research while Tiger II= level 5 research. Although It's still understandable that the Panther would be level five, because of its slopped armor design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukkov Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 the panther was a main battle tank, technically a medium. the tigers were actual heavies. i agree, the king would be the better representation for level 5. since the game goes to 47 maybe ole hube will put in some stuff that never made it for a possible level 6or 7 in the next game... finally did get to level 3. looks like a mkIVG? while i was patting myself on the back for taking all of the historical objectives(leningrad/moscow/stalingrad), the allies decided give me a present by invading sicily and france simultaneosly. i'm glad no one was here to see a grown man cry... lol.. had to use mr. peabody's wayback machine and start from a saved game the year before... hey, it's not cheating! it's called learning... :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsmm Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 yep level three is a mark IV. Zukkov to be honest I agree that it should be the King Tiger, but I don't think I'm going to complain about it, because it really doesn't affect the game at all. However not knowing for sure after a couple of years of playing these games it does begin to get a bit annoying, that you don't know what it is. BTW the Allies invading Europe is an opportunity to destroy them it shouldn't be something to cry about, and you were given a gift to destroy them on two fronts instead of the usual one. You must realize that when you play as the Axis you need to play with pride as you're representing Hitler and if you don't represent him good you will be shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razz1 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hell, I see B29's all the time with the AI before 1943. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsmm Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 I know it's amazing the research breakthroughs that the AI gets. None of which are ever really historical, but the AI I think is given free research chits, so it makes it easy for the AI to get breakthrough after breakthrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Just to clarify, the AI does get some free units here and there and may get an increase in MPPs depending on the difficulty settings but no free research chits... although it may have more to purchase if it has extra MPP etc. Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsmm Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hubert thanks for the clarification, but to be perfectly honest with you I've experienced the exact opposite of what you said in a couple of games. Not in PT as there is never a chance to really test it, as most of the majors are already activated, but in WAW I've noticed that the USSR (at 0% Allied) can get level four heavy tanks along with 3 advanced aircraft, level 2 infantry and anti tank weapons, etc all at 0%. The 0% should mean that she gets only what she invested in, and what she already got, but to be perfectly clear I did this on Fall Weiss and I didn't touch anything relating to Soviet research. From there I kept the USSR at 0% throughout the entire game, but she got all these breakthroughs by mid 43' and I declared war on her in early 44'. The reason why I attacked her so late was, because I was going for a complete Axis Victory script I incorporated into the game, the side reason was that I was scared to attack this neutral country which had better research or equal levels to my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Scottsmm, can you clarify what you mean by keeping a country at 0%? I'm not really sure what this means and it would help before I respond. Thanks, Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsmm Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 100% neutral doesn't produce a single MPP after the Allied turn is over. The word “keeping” in that sentence was meant to imply the point that it stayed that way for the duration of the game, until of course I DOW war on her. Although what I noticed was the AI got some spare MPPS at the beginning of the new year (throughout the game). This however wasn't a reasonable amount though to get all the breakthroughs I mentioned above, it was around 70 MPPS. Sorry for not being clear, please let me know if you need any further clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Ah Ok thanks for the clarification and yes there is a bug when the USSR is set to completely neutral... I will fix this, thanks. Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsmm Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 Glad I could help . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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