Nicdain Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Ah! OK, Steve, now I got it! When you say "digital", you mean digital-fashioned scheme! I didn't know Italian Army had such camo scheme. As you say, it is a recent change. Regards Niccolò 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Steve, are you still looking for a Boonie hat in British Desert DPM? 'Cos I know where they can be had. p.s. I'm a big fan of the British, for some reason... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicdain Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 An BTW, Steve, my compliments for the camo pages. Very interesting! Regards Niccolò 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Got more British DPM than you can shake a stick at In fact, it is one of the most complete parts of my collection. Nicdain, Check out this: http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/Uniformi/unif_servcombnew.aspNow tell me you guys wouldn't want to command troops dressed in that stuff? Steve [ October 19, 2005, 12:40 PM: Message edited by: Battlefront.com ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Viljuri Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Since Steve's link was missing the new Finnish m/05, here is an official picture about our camo (picture provided by FDF): Note the not so good ballistic protection and absolutely ridiculous eye protectors (er, goggles). But performance data is not that bad, the camo mimics nature's own infrared reflection up to a 1350nm wavelength and the lightweight composite helmet (weight less than 1000g) can withstand fragments traveling up to a speed of 600 m/s (calculated by using a 1.1 g fragment). Other interesting tidbits: The new wet weather jacket (picture not available) can resist mustard gas up to a 24 hours. Our actual NBC gear is performing better, but at this point I feel obliged to mention that even our old wet weather jacket (or raincape, to be precise) was capable of protecting its user from proximity nuclear releases. Or so they told us... All data official, btw. A better pic about ballistic protection: EDIT: +a, +h [ October 19, 2005, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: SSgt Viljuri ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Rigged for playing paintball, by the look of it. And a scope on a Kalashnikov-knockoff, of all things. Posted by Steve: Got more British DPM than you can shake a stick at In fact, it is one of the most complete parts of my collection.Knackers. There must be something I can bribe you with for a sooner-rather-than-later British Module? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Viljuri Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 flamingknives wrote: And a scope on a Kalashnikov-knockoff, of all things. Well, there are three different types of scopes available (personally I have had a different one). What comes to "a Kalashnikov rip-off", namely a Sako 7.62 RK 95 TP, its not that bad weapon at all. Not great, though. Naturally there are other weapons for special forces (including H&Ks), but as a standard issue personal weapon, RK 95 fulfills its role, especially if the Finnish terrain is considered (lots of foliage, trees, stubs, branches and so on; basically you need a bit heavier weapon, both caliber and weight wise). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Salt Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Originally posted by SSgt Viljuri: [snips] But performance data is not that bad, the camo mimics nature's own infrared reflection up to a 1350nm wavelength ...which is doubtless great stuff, but I still wonder at the wisdom displayed (apparently by most of the world's armies) by wearing greeny-browny woodland camouflage in a bricky-concrete urban setting. Khaki drill would probably be better. All the best, John. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillweed Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I can understand the goggles, keeps the crap out of your eyes. As someone who caught some freshly ejected (and very hot) 5.56 brass in the eye in basic I can tell you it was no fun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Viljuri Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Altough I'm sure nobody is interested, here's an example of our desert camo (a pic from Afganistan, a guy on the left is an Afgani soldier): Does the Finn look a bit like Dorosh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillweed Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Originally posted by SSgt Viljuri: Altough I'm sure nobody is interested, here's an example of our desert camo (a pic from Afganistan, a guy on the left is an Afgani soldier): Does the Finn look a bit like Dorosh? Really I thought the guy with the finnish flags was the Afgani and the swarthy fellow was the Finn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Originally posted by John D Salt: [snip] but I still wonder at the wisdom displayed (apparently by most of the world's armies) by wearing greeny-browny woodland camouflage in a bricky-concrete urban setting. Khaki drill would probably be better. All the best, John. Well, compared with the wisdom of painting that wooden fence to look like brick...and using chalk to touch up spots that they missed...I would say actually wearing clothing is more that could have been hoped for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Originally posted by Dillweed: [ Its been my observation (to make a huge generalization) that they are very good at making nice flashy stuff but not so much at regular mundane things (think high fashion vs a working postal system) Well, there's the beretta. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Originally posted by Battlefront.com: Now tell me you guys wouldn't want to command troops dressed in that stuff? That was a joke right? The thought of wearing that into battle makes me want to drop my rifle and throw up my hands already. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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