pakfront_37 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Besides opening the hatches on the model, what advantage does it have? I can still get all the commander views (pgUp/PgDn) with it closed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 It increases survivability for your crew after a partial or full penetration. That's pretty much the only effect as you say, since you get all the other views anyway. One of my biggest personal gripes with regard to the realism in the game, I admit. Martin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum MGG Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Ya, just my 2 cents... I wish the TC was modeled when sitting up in the TC hatch, you would get more range and visibility, and a bino function.... with it closed you couldn't spot infantry in the woods almost a K away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakfront_37 Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 So... always leave it open? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakfront_37 Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 As an aside... I was totally impressed when my bad driving cracked my optics, obscuring my views. So I popped the hatch open and put my head out... but then the 'cracked glass' overlay was still drawn over my view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Which position? With or without hatches open, if you use the same optics to look through, they obviously remain damaged. You need to switch to the non-magnified "eyeball" view of the tank commander (F7). Martin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzkrieg Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 pakfront, SLOW DOWN! It is fun to get 40 tons airborne though. Find those bumps in the trails and nail them at full throttle in 4th of 5th gear = hangtime. :eek: Moon, didn't know you could switch the TC view to a non-magnified view. I found it very hard to see anything with the default 2.4x (or whatever) zoom view from the TC position. Have to try that tonight. Are those the same keys that switch sight views in the gunner's position? Don't have the full game...yet. Purchased yesterday. Hoping for a Friday delivery. Having a blast (literally) with the demo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affe Hans Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 "It increases survivability for your crew after a partial or full penetration..." One question: Why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 In real life, T-72 TC would spend most of his time unbuttoned as his situational awareness is too poor under armor. The periscope view is not really an option unless your tank is attacked by indirect fire or heavy infantry fire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakfront_37 Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 Moon, didn't know you could switch the TC view to a non-magnified view. I found it very hard to see anything with the default 2.4x (or whatever) zoom view from the TC position. Have to try that tonight. Are those the same keys that switch sight views in the gunner's position? PgUp/PgDn - in eyeball your 'optics' are still cracked. In this case cracking happened after the AI decided to throw itself on some Dragon's Teeth. Done it myself at other times though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Originally posted by Affe Hans: "It increases survivability for your crew after a partial or full penetration..." One question: Why? Well, when a tank gets hit it is possible that the ammunition in it will catch fire and explode, therefore, the crew must bail out of the tank as quickly as possible. The act of bailing out should take few seconeds in order to survive, and the best way to do it is with opened hatches. Oren_m. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnail Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 That and some of the force of the explosion from the penetrating round/exploding ammo is vented out of the tank instead of pureeing the crew. A primitive version of blow-out panels fitted to Western tank designs (I think the T80 has this but not the T72...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Originally posted by Hobnail: A primitive version of blow-out panels fitted to Western tank designs (I think the T80 has this but not the T72...) I've never heard of blow-out panels on T-80 and even if it did have them they wouldn't help much as all the ammo is stored in the crew compartment, 50%(ie. the rounds not in the carousel) of them without any protection if penetration occurs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denwad Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Ukranian T-80 variant has a basket loader instead of the carousel loader 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Originally posted by Denwad: Ukranian T-80 variant has a basket loader instead of the carousel loader All T-64/80 have "Basket" autoloaders, but they still have rotating carousels on turret floor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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