Micheal Wittman Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 Hello, just wondering if Hummels where used as inderict arty fire as I've seen pictures of them with their guns at approx. 35 degree angles as on a fire mission? It seems they can only do direct fire in "CMBO". Thanks for your responce! CheerZ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 The Hummel is SPA. It's primary role was to bring mobile artillery to the battlefield. It was used (but never intended I belive) in direct fire situations like how they are used in CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 Yep, the Hummel was definately used for indirect fire. As self-propelled-arty you would find them mostly in Panzer divisions where they could keep up with the fast-moving panzer formations. In normal situations self-propelled arty would ALWAYS try to fire indirect fire since their low armour isn't very effective to enemy fire. You can simulate the use of Hummels firing indirect fire by using 150mm offboard arty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Wittman Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 It seems then the use of a Hummel, as much as I love em, in the present "CM" capacity is really bizzare. I wonder if "CMBB" would make changes as to their actual funtion, if it's worth the while. I wonder if they would have a time delay for support fire on an attack or if their close prox. to the battle would eliminate that. Curious as to the actual use of "SPA's". Time to do a little research : ) I love this game! CheerZ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 What we really needs are the self-propelled 150mm infantry guns, like Bision et al (thin) and Brummbaer (thick), they were intended for direct fire. I think CMBO only got the Hummel because it could share the 3D model with the Nashorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewallen Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by redwolf: What we really needs are the self-propelled 150mm infantry guns, like Bision et al (thin) and Brummbaer (thick), they were intended for direct fire. I think CMBO only got the Hummel because it could share the 3D model with the Nashorn.<hr></blockquote> I was actually very much looking forward to being able to use the Brumbar (or however it's spelled); from playing the Steel Panthers series, I remember it being monsterously effective against infantry, particularly in urban environments, where it usually brought the building down on top of them after a couple of shots. However, from this site: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nstalker/armoury/german/brumbar.htm I believe it may have been mainly used on the Eastern Front. There is another web site, however, which suggests it may have been also used on the Western front, and says that only 313 were built. A Google search for "Brumbar" turns up mostly sites about plastic models... Anyway, it's certainly something to hope for in CMBB. [ 01-08-2002: Message edited by: lewallen ]</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gredeker Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 I believe that the Brummbar is in for CMBB. If not, there's always the SturmTiger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 While the use of the Hummel in a DF role is quite unrealistic, I think you can use them to simulate the 15cm SP guns that are not in the game, and were intended for dual use (at least I have seen movie footage where they were thus employed). But sparingly, I would suggest, if you care about realism. If not, let it rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapdragon Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 DF use of the Hummel was in "last stand" scenarios. I agree that the best way to simulate a hummel firing battery is to buy a 150mm Arty battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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