Voxman Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 What is Borg Spotting mean ? I have visions of 7of9 going through my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wacky Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 In CM if I had a tank spot an AT gun on one spot of the map, every other unit I have is also aware of the spotted AT gun, regardless of distance, LOS, etc. In reality this would not be the case since not every unit on the battlefield is in communication with eachother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrewolf Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 but then even if the unit is known, whether the tank actually have spot that unit is another matter. I observed that when I use the hunt command in combination of a targeting line to an enemy tank around the corner of a building or woods the tank would not immediately acquire the enemy tank upon getting a direct LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Bone_Vulture: Ok, could someone explain me "Borg spotting" in short? Still makes no sense to me? Borg Spotting comes from a comment by Charles a long time ago that said that Like the BORG (from star trek) EVERY friendly unit knows (instantly) when one friendly unit spots an enemy unit. This was refered to as Absolute spotting. What we are looking for is the more realistic Relative spotting which is a concept where every unit MUST spot (on its own) an enemy unit which means that units that might think they know where the enemy is (because the player knows) BUT who have not actually spotted that enemy unit for themselves would NOT have the opportunity to target that unit. In the game it would be something like clicking on a unit and the only enemy units the Player would see on the map would be the units that the specicific unit had indepentantly spotted on it own (and then could target directly). Therefore (in one theory or implementation) selecting differing friendly units would display different enemy units that each friendly unit had independantly spotted on their own. ( this suggested implementation is only one way to do it, I'm sure that no only really knows exactly how Relative Spotting will actually work in the NeXt Big Thing, but its fun to speculate.) -tom w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 Another way to look at it...with absolute or "Borg" spotting, the "spotted" data flag is kept with the spotted unit, to which ALL enemy units relate to. If you're spotted by one enemy unit, you're spotted by all, each of whom may react to you as if they know where you are even if they cannot see you in their line of sight. With relative spotting, each spotting unit has a data set for each unit it has spotted. Thus, it is possible for friendly units that are separated by only a few dozen meters, to have spotted entirely different enemy units, and to be oblivious to the enemy units spotted by their friendly colleagues. On the real battlefield, absolute spotting is a general's fantasy that is soon to become reality (in the US Army at least) with the advent of networked intelligence displays in all combat vehicles, aircraft and even individual soldiers equipped with the Land Warrior system equipment. I.E. You won't have to see it yourself, to know that it is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Originally posted by gunnergoz: On the real battlefield, absolute spotting is a general's fantasy that is soon to become reality (in the US Army at least) with the advent of networked intelligence displays in all combat vehicles, aircraft and even individual soldiers equipped with the Land Warrior system equipment. I.E. You won't have to see it yourself, to know that it is there....As long as it works. Given the power of this invention, and presuming the dependency on it that will quickly arise, you can count on potential enemies will set to work to create counter-measures. In fact, we will do so ourselves under the assumption that eventually other armies, including some that are not friendly to us, will acquire the technology also. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoerner Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Regarding to the future of warfare: not only absolute spotting wlll come true in the near future, but also the prediction of soldiers' behaviour: liga- and nano-technology-biosensors, that are implemented into the uniforms. Therefore it is possible to observe the medical status in realtime and predict behaviour (panick). [ October 27, 2002, 01:20 AM: Message edited by: Schoerner ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Great. So now we can have on the spot battlefield executions for cowardice. Where can I sign up? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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