History Buff Posted January 12, 2002 Share Posted January 12, 2002 I was reading a text called 'Wermahct' from my local library follwoing the structure adn weapon systems of the German army. In the Russian Front section it had a picture and caption pointing out the use of Germans using experimental remote controlled bombs which were alot of TNT on small tank tracks which were guided by soldiers to mess up tank convoys etc. Though they were not widely used that I found very interesting and wondered if it would be included in CM BB? Probably not I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted January 12, 2002 Share Posted January 12, 2002 It seems you refer to the 'Sprengpanzer' - I have started a threat about it just yesterday. There are some links with more informations. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted January 13, 2002 Share Posted January 13, 2002 I want to see the russian dog-bombs! "Okay Skippy! Go fetch the stick under that Panzer III! Go boy, go!" "No, no! That's Pavel's tank! It's not under his tank! Skippy--aw crap!" "Oh well. Yakov, go back to the truck and get spike. Maybe he'll have better luck." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Chef Sakai Posted January 13, 2002 Share Posted January 13, 2002 The germans also invented guided missles,fired from aircraft and tested them in the medeteranian against shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vyrdolak Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by History Buff: I was reading a text called 'Wermahct' from my local library. In the Russian Front section it had a picture of Germans using experimental remote controlled bombs which were alot of TNT on small tank tracks which were guided by soldiers to mess up tank convoys etc.<hr></blockquote> It was nicknamed "Goliath", iirc. They were used to reduce the Warsaw Ghetto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Rocker Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Zaraath: It was nicknamed "Goliath", iirc. They were used to reduce the Warsaw Ghetto.<hr></blockquote> I hope that no one will ask for Sondereinsatzkommandos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff the Magic Dragon Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Goliaths would be really cool. More engineer stuff But it could be difficult to model - a vehicel with an extern crew to drive it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Western Allies called them Doodlebugs. I think they were first encountered at Anzio by western troops but could be wrong about that. Allied troops found that they could easily be picked off with rifle fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Huh. I thought Doodlebugs referred to the V1's buzzing into London. Ditto comment about being easy to disable/pick-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff the Magic Dragon Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Here is a page about them at Achtung Panzer! There were different models, some were big like tanks, and I guess they couldn't be killed with a rifle, at least not all models. GIMME GIMME GIMME [ 01-13-2002: Message edited by: Puff the Magic Dragon ]</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Chef Sakai Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by JonS: Huh. I thought Doodlebugs referred to the V1's buzzing into London. Ditto comment about being easy to disable/pick-off.<hr></blockquote> If the V1 rocket was so easy to pick/disable, then why did the British allow so many to crash into London? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 I meant the goliaths were easy to pick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by JonS: Huh. I thought Doodlebugs referred to the V1's buzzing into London. Ditto comment about being easy to disable/pick-off.<hr></blockquote> Correct on both counts, but they were also applied to the Sprengpanzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff the Magic Dragon Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Iron Chef Sakai: If the V1 rocket was so easy to pick/disable, then why did the British allow so many to crash into London? <hr></blockquote> I guess the V2 did the most damage. I don't know the English technical terms - the V1 was this relativ slow flying bomb, similar to an aircraft, but the V2 was the rocket bomb with this nice black & white coating. I'm not sure if it was possible to shoot down V2 rockets - I assume it was at least much more difficult to shoot them down then the V1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 You could not shoot down the V-2. There is footage from the gun camera in a Typhoon I believe attacking one just lifting off (came as a bit of a surprise to the pilot I think. It has been described by a fellow pilot as 'the most optimistic attack of the war.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Puff the Magic Dragon: I guess the V2 did the most damage. I don't know the English technical terms I'm not sure if it was possible to shoot down V2 rockets - I assume it was at least much more difficult to shoot them down then the V1.<hr></blockquote> The V2 was a big worry for the Allies as it did tremendous damage and could not be countered other than destroying the sites they were being launched from. The course of the military campaign in Europe was to a large extent dictated by the use of these weapons as the Allies tried hard to remove them from use. This is after the intial invasion. A big worry. If there had been more or if Hitler had developed an Atom bomb and deployed it with these V2's then the war could have turned a different way. This is one weapon that we were very lucky it had hot been developed until too late. America made big use of the technology and scientists after the war and this gave them a lead for some time over the Soviets who had captured some of the rockets but not the scientists. H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Chef Sakai Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 The Soviets caputred their share of scientists, and actualy made better use of the technology intitialy, by being the first into space, first satalite launched inot orbit...ect.. We did'nt realy over take them until we put a man on the moon, in 1969. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hofbauer Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Phantom Rocker: I hope that no one will ask for Sondereinsatzkommandos...<hr></blockquote> wrong terminology. S.E.K. are today's german police SWAT - teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Rocker Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by M Hofbauer: wrong terminology. S.E.K. are today's german police SWAT - teams.<hr></blockquote> Yep, sorry, I meant of course the 'SS Einsatzgruppen' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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