Poobear Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Has anyone seen one used yet? Was your infantry in contact w/ the tank or did they "throw" it so to speak? Dan [ September 06, 2002, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: Poobear ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Thrown from about 25m direct and instant 'hit' and KO, bunged another just to make sure. Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 They aren't thrown exactly... it is an abstraction. Assume that one brave soul has rushed out to the tank and applied the devilish little device to the soon to be burning tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Ditto Berlichtingen's post. You see three guys but there's really 9 there. Can't graphically represent firing the squad mg, rifles, smgs, and placing the mine all at the same time! Gotta leave something to the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 I didn't see any mines on the German side, only grenade bundles and the pazerwurfmine? Regards, Gryphon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offtaskagain Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Like Wicky said, the max range for the hand-held AT weapons is about 25 m. Youll see a little gray thing fly towards the tank and hopefully it will be KO'd. Molotovs leave a little patch of fire if they miss. I've had some sucess with them in the Citadel scenario, but not Yelnia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 There was some debate whether the grenade bundle was thrown or placed. Consensus was that it would probably be hand-placed (usually under turret rear overhang or against the drive sprocket?) but that would be a royal pain to animate. Hence, the compromise. As to the presence of proper 'magnetic mines' as well as grenade bundles and sachel charges, I honestly don't know! A Beta tester with a better memory will have to answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobear Posted September 6, 2002 Author Share Posted September 6, 2002 Originally posted by Gryphon: I didn't see any mines on the German side, only grenade bundles and the pazerwurfmine? Regards, GryphonYelnia Stare (spelling?) scenario, 2 tank hunter teams (GERMAN) have magnetic anti-tank mines as well as grenade bundles. I agree w/ the likelyhood that a grenade bundle would have been placed rather than thrown (or mabye a very short toss) but understand why it was necessary for BTS to model them being thrown for simplicity. Glad to hear that someone had success though. Both my teams were killed at 100 meteres by a T-34 while they were still hiding in their fox holes. Never got close. Maybe when the get in some urban combat as mentioned above I'll see the buggers work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 I have yet to see an ATMM, they are panzerwurfmines. IIRC, they are a fin stabilized grenade of sorts. When I first played, I thought they were ATMM, but then someone corrected me to what they are. Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Originally posted by Wicky: Thrown from about 25m direct and instant 'hit' and KO, bunged another just to make sure. Sweet.But, whatever they are, they sure can knock out a T34! Nothing is better than taking out a T-34 with one brave man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoffel Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 one thing missing are normal AT mines like tellermines standard procedure was to let the T34 drive through your position. the tankhunters than would take em out, if one drove over a foxhole or a trench ,than a brave soul would throw an AT mine to the tracks. remember Steiner in Cross of Iron The first report I read of the usage of mines and grenades was about Hauptsturmbahnfuhrer Seela. he crawled upon a T34,placed a mine between the enginedeck and the turret and than used a grenade to explode the mine. Brave guy,he killed 7 T34's that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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