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Two things I've come to realize so far:

1) Brian Reid's book is a must have

2) I shall have Brian Reid's book

Those scans were wicked, guitar-wailing Ninja cool -but- they still leave me with unanswered questions.

Was the counterattack still in progress, as the book appears to be saying at the end of pg. 287, or did the Germans pull back into ambush positions as alluded to at the beginning of pg. 288?

Don't answer - I need an excuse to pick up a copy of NHB.

Thanks to all for your help (so far).

BTW, is Reid working on Tractable?

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GuinnessBrilliant.jpg

Two things I've come to realize so far:

1) Brian Reid's book is a must have

2) I shall have Brian Reid's book

Those scans were wicked, guitar-wailing Ninja cool -but- they still leave me with unanswered questions.

Was the counterattack still in progress, as the book appears to be saying at the end of pg. 287, or did the Germans pull back into ambush positions as alluded to at the beginning of pg. 288?

Don't answer - I need an excuse to pick up a copy of NHB.

Thanks to all for your help (so far).

BTW, is Reid working on Tractable?

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GuinnessBrilliant.jpg

Two things I've come to realize so far:

1) Brian Reid's book is a must have

2) I shall have Brian Reid's book

Those scans were wicked, guitar-wailing Ninja cool -but- they still leave me with unanswered questions.

Was the counterattack still in progress, as the book appears to be saying at the end of pg. 287, or did the Germans pull back into ambush positions as alluded to at the beginning of pg. 288?

Don't answer - I need an excuse to pick up a copy of NHB.

Thanks to all for your help (so far).

BTW, is Reid working on Tractable?

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Kingfish,

You're welcome! The 1 PAD report was pretty interesting, but I'm slightly perplexed. Are "coupled mortars" to be interpreted as Nebelwerfers? Thought the CO's comment on the dangers of his own Air Force as being on par with hostile fire made for an excellent calibration point for friendly fire modeling in CMx2.

Regards,

John Kettler

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Kingfish,

You're welcome! The 1 PAD report was pretty interesting, but I'm slightly perplexed. Are "coupled mortars" to be interpreted as Nebelwerfers? Thought the CO's comment on the dangers of his own Air Force as being on par with hostile fire made for an excellent calibration point for friendly fire modeling in CMx2.

Regards,

John Kettler

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Kingfish,

You're welcome! The 1 PAD report was pretty interesting, but I'm slightly perplexed. Are "coupled mortars" to be interpreted as Nebelwerfers? Thought the CO's comment on the dangers of his own Air Force as being on par with hostile fire made for an excellent calibration point for friendly fire modeling in CMx2.

Regards,

John Kettler

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While working on something today I came across this:

... Also occasionally found throughout the narratives are strings of four to eight-digit numbers. Those were location designations based upon the “Modified British System” of coordinates developed to help pinpoint positions on maps. The first two to four digits identified an X coordinate while the second two to four identified the Y coordinate on the specified map. Readers who are interested may wish to find out more about the Modified British System at the excellent website http://www.echodelta.net/mbs/eng-welcome.php maintained by Thierry Arsicaud, who also has included a very versatile conversion calculator that can identify any such point by latitude and longitude or even place it on a modern Mapquest® map.

The locations are all within the “French Lambert Zone 1” in squares “vT” and “vU”. The north-south dividing line between the two squares ran just west of Caen, with the vU square east of the line, and the vT square to the west.

TOTALISE seems to be in vU. The grid noted above (vU108556) translates to this location in MapQuest.

?e=9&GetMapDataDirect=Gme5diw%2cb%3a9u12%3b%40%245h%2d7a9wys%26%3d7%2614aguw%24nd%2d20gyz0%26u2%26dy15qw%24xg672%26u2gu%2c2%3a9672%3b%40b20w%24%3a%26%40%245h%2d7a9wys%26%3d7%2614aguw%24%3a%26uz0u%2cfdt70vx%40%24ndw2%7cu%40azg7%24ndw2%7c9w%24g562n0zb%3a1fbx008g%26ftah6y0%26a8luwtn%26u82qwts%26z7n1r1%3al0ragz%24ndw1su%40t5hf1%3aly72u%402gu67%3ah672%26wt2u%40asu6%24nq67%261%2c%240062%3a%26&rnd=5521

[ June 01, 2008, 01:27 AM: Message edited by: JonS ]

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While working on something today I came across this:

... Also occasionally found throughout the narratives are strings of four to eight-digit numbers. Those were location designations based upon the “Modified British System” of coordinates developed to help pinpoint positions on maps. The first two to four digits identified an X coordinate while the second two to four identified the Y coordinate on the specified map. Readers who are interested may wish to find out more about the Modified British System at the excellent website http://www.echodelta.net/mbs/eng-welcome.php maintained by Thierry Arsicaud, who also has included a very versatile conversion calculator that can identify any such point by latitude and longitude or even place it on a modern Mapquest® map.

The locations are all within the “French Lambert Zone 1” in squares “vT” and “vU”. The north-south dividing line between the two squares ran just west of Caen, with the vU square east of the line, and the vT square to the west.

TOTALISE seems to be in vU. The grid noted above (vU108556) translates to this location in MapQuest.

?e=9&GetMapDataDirect=Gme5diw%2cb%3a9u12%3b%40%245h%2d7a9wys%26%3d7%2614aguw%24nd%2d20gyz0%26u2%26dy15qw%24xg672%26u2gu%2c2%3a9672%3b%40b20w%24%3a%26%40%245h%2d7a9wys%26%3d7%2614aguw%24%3a%26uz0u%2cfdt70vx%40%24ndw2%7cu%40azg7%24ndw2%7c9w%24g562n0zb%3a1fbx008g%26ftah6y0%26a8luwtn%26u82qwts%26z7n1r1%3al0ragz%24ndw1su%40t5hf1%3aly72u%402gu67%3ah672%26wt2u%40asu6%24nq67%261%2c%240062%3a%26&rnd=5521

[ June 01, 2008, 01:27 AM: Message edited by: JonS ]

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While working on something today I came across this:

... Also occasionally found throughout the narratives are strings of four to eight-digit numbers. Those were location designations based upon the “Modified British System” of coordinates developed to help pinpoint positions on maps. The first two to four digits identified an X coordinate while the second two to four identified the Y coordinate on the specified map. Readers who are interested may wish to find out more about the Modified British System at the excellent website http://www.echodelta.net/mbs/eng-welcome.php maintained by Thierry Arsicaud, who also has included a very versatile conversion calculator that can identify any such point by latitude and longitude or even place it on a modern Mapquest® map.

The locations are all within the “French Lambert Zone 1” in squares “vT” and “vU”. The north-south dividing line between the two squares ran just west of Caen, with the vU square east of the line, and the vT square to the west.

TOTALISE seems to be in vU. The grid noted above (vU108556) translates to this location in MapQuest.

?e=9&GetMapDataDirect=Gme5diw%2cb%3a9u12%3b%40%245h%2d7a9wys%26%3d7%2614aguw%24nd%2d20gyz0%26u2%26dy15qw%24xg672%26u2gu%2c2%3a9672%3b%40b20w%24%3a%26%40%245h%2d7a9wys%26%3d7%2614aguw%24%3a%26uz0u%2cfdt70vx%40%24ndw2%7cu%40azg7%24ndw2%7c9w%24g562n0zb%3a1fbx008g%26ftah6y0%26a8luwtn%26u82qwts%26z7n1r1%3al0ragz%24ndw1su%40t5hf1%3aly72u%402gu67%3ah672%26wt2u%40asu6%24nq67%261%2c%240062%3a%26&rnd=5521

[ June 01, 2008, 01:27 AM: Message edited by: JonS ]

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And Google, of course, will give you the same maps zoomed in a lot closer with satellite photos and ten meter contour lines (and even a photo of the eglise de Cintheaux).

Land ownership in Normandy is very conservative, so the satellite photos probably give a pretty good idea of the field layout in the 'forties. I was surprised at how rural the area apparently still is, even today. Then again, something like half of the population of France is engaged in agriculture, which may explain in part why they've always had an unemployment problem.

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And Google, of course, will give you the same maps zoomed in a lot closer with satellite photos and ten meter contour lines (and even a photo of the eglise de Cintheaux).

Land ownership in Normandy is very conservative, so the satellite photos probably give a pretty good idea of the field layout in the 'forties. I was surprised at how rural the area apparently still is, even today. Then again, something like half of the population of France is engaged in agriculture, which may explain in part why they've always had an unemployment problem.

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