Other Means Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 ASUI Fireflys were mixed into Sherman platoons to give some extra AT capability. can this be represented using the current engine? if so, is there any chance of it being in the patch? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 They might be able to, but I think its unlikely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 1) no* 2) hopefully (amongst other new flexibilities in the way units are organised) * well, you can have mixed groups of Shermans and Fireflys trundling around together, adn you can call them a platoon if you wish. And many scenarios are set up this way. But they aren't 'platoons' (actually 'troops') in the sense of commandlines radiating out from the HQ unit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisbech_lad Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Quite - your thread should read mixed Sherman/Firefly TROOPS. And you could argue it was the other way round - Shermans were mixed in with Firefly's to give them more AP capability... (extra MG's, able to carry more ammo, higher ROF) Stuart Hill's troop in Market Garden had 2 x Firefly, but kept 1 x 75mm for this reason (he says). Interestingly, he, as troop commander, took the 75mm one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Originally posted by Wisbech_lad: Stuart Hill's troop in Market Garden had 2 x Firefly, but kept 1 x 75mm for this reason (he says). Interestingly, he, as troop commander, took the 75mm one. Seems rather wise to me. After all, I'd think that Gerry would aim for the long-barreled Shermans first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Originally posted by von Lucke: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Wisbech_lad: Stuart Hill's troop in Market Garden had 2 x Firefly, but kept 1 x 75mm for this reason (he says). Interestingly, he, as troop commander, took the 75mm one. Seems rather wise to me. After all, I'd think that Gerry would aim for the long-barreled Shermans first. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Dorosh is right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 It would be nice, that much is for sure. I just don't see it happening. Didn't the Americans mix their platoons with Sherman 76mm and Sherman 75mm later in the war as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 ... and the Germans had mixed AFV pns too (eg, mixed PzIII and Pz VI in Tunisia). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Originally posted by Wisbech_lad: Interestingly, he, as troop commander, took the 75mm one. AIUI, that (the Tp cmmd not taking a Firefly) was standard practice throughout the British Army. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 troop. got it. was this mix enshrined in orders? if so i feel justified in asking for it in the patch (as much as anything else) as i feel the German formations where ad hoc. i'm sure such mixes happened everywhere as necessary. but if it's part of doctrine it's a different matter. Originally posted by JonS: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Wisbech_lad: Interestingly, he, as troop commander, took the 75mm one. AIUI, that (the Tp cmmd not taking a Firefly) was standard practice throughout the British Army. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Originally posted by Other Means: however, i would have thought SOP would be to have the Firefly's more to the rear, to engage an identifed threat. is this correct or no? You're correct. Fireflies were kept "in reserve" to deal with heavier threats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Originally posted by Other Means: as i feel the German formations where ad hoc. No, the the PzIII/PzVI mixed pn was standard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 http://www.miniatures.de/html/frc/toeB11ad.html Probably been posted before but a nice little site.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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