Green Hornet Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I did a quick search but I couldn't find the specific answer I was looking for. If air support is scheduled to arrive as reinforcements (e.g. - turn 8 100% chance). Is there still some question as to whether or not it will even show up? I thought I remembered in previous versions of CM CAS was never a guaranteed thing. Is this still true in CMAK? The reason I'm asking is that I'm playing a scenario in which I'm supposed to recieve air support on turn 10, it's now turn 19 and I've seen no sign of it. I'm just wondering if I should just assume it's not going to show up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Originally posted by Green Hornet: If air support is scheduled to arrive as reinforcements (e.g. - turn 8 100% chance). Is there still some question as to whether or not it will even show up?Right. It may show up late or not at all. The rationale is that they may have gotten lost, been intercepted, or come across more inviting targets along the way. These kinds of diversions are not as likely with, say, ground reinforcements, which are therefore handled in a more straightforward manner. Air power is a real wild card. Even if it shows up, as presently programmed it appears to have an almost 50-50 chance that it will choose to attack your troops instead of the enemy's. You might be better off if it doesn't show up. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hornet Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 That's kind of the answer I expected. A gamble. Thanks for your confirmation, Michael. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Actually, I think in CMBB CAS was made to appear reliably and would assume the same is true for CMAK. So it will show up, pay attention to the sound cue... and keep your distance to the enemy..! :eek: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I'm with you on this Sergei as I seem to recall reading that the changes to airpower from CMBO to CMBB were that it would always turn up but could be delayed for various reasons. I'm assuming this part of the code from CMBB wasn't tampered with when CMAK was created. Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 IIRC, in CMBO, there was a 10% chance of a no-show but this was removed in CMBB and presumably in CMAK. There is, in CMBB at least, a delay between the reinforcement being scheduled and the A/C arriving. This was a real problem in the longer scenarios as the CAS would only appear after most of the fighting had occured. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hornet Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 Okay, then...I'll keep an eye out for it. If/when it does show, I just hope it recognizes friend from foe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbvr Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Hello one and all CAS... I have noticed and tryed out a number of ways to get aircraft to show up/and shoot at the bad guys it would seem the better they are ie green > elite the better chance of a: showing up b:getting the target right it would seem you get what you pay for in most battles you do hear the aircraft turn up but.. is it mine or the other guys... to stop attack on your troops i have found after you hear a plane stop moving this seems to help id you ... poss dust etc /in cover.. but god help you if it is the other guy.. take care and happy hunting... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omi Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 So far, I have never seen a battle where my air support didn't show up. I played dozens of QB against the AI and I've seen planes hit the wrong side only twice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbvr Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Hello one and all i have had battles that are hit and miss if its a meeting eng i feel you have more chance of being zapped.... no defined front line etc depends how the engine works it i guess... question for you all has any one had a blue on blue with AA shooting at the wrong guys ???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by Sergei: Actually, I think in CMBB CAS was made to appear reliably and would assume the same is true for CMAK. So it will show up...Except in the case where the game ends before the A/C shows up. You see, it isn't necessary to have a positive No Show command written into the code for the A/C not to make it to the battle. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 IIRC htere was a thread once where they tested AC showing up depending on reinfocement turn (Which for QBs is always 0 = on board) and overal number of turns. In a 60 turn game the plane would show up later than in a 30 turn game. Gruß Joachim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by Rabidbvr: Hello one and all i have had battles that are hit and miss if its a meeting eng i feel you have more chance of being zapped.... no defined front line etc depends how the engine works it i guess... question for you all has any one had a blue on blue with AA shooting at the wrong guys ???? I have an end file whose AAR states 1 plane shot down for each side. A priest and a 40mm bofors both claim 1 plane, no axis unit claims a kill. Gruß Joachim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheer Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by Joachim: [/qb]I have an end file whose AAR states 1 plane shot down for each side. A priest and a 40mm bofors both claim 1 plane, no axis unit claims a kill. [/QB] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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