Sivodsi Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 At what range does a maxim become effective vs German HTs? Also, how about Mg42 vs Russian light armor? If at all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 At what range does a maxim become effective vs German HTs? Does it ever? Sides and rear only, and then at close range (sub-50m), if at all. Also, how about Mg42 vs Russian light armor? Couple of hundred metres, depending on angle and armour thickness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivodsi Posted September 29, 2003 Author Share Posted September 29, 2003 Thanks. I'm in a situation where I have a maxim within 30 metres of a stationary ht - which I think may be shocked. Was debating whether to open up. I think I'll wait for a platoon of infantry to catch up and then maybe I'll get the ht when it turns towards them. Germant hts can only shoot in front of them, right? By crickey I hope my opponent is not reading this! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walpurgis nacht Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Originally posted by Sivodsi: At what range does a maxim become effective vs German HTs? Also, how about Mg42 vs Russian light armor? If at all? Always best to setup a hotseat test for yourself in the scenario editor to find the right ranges out. Simple way to tell for this question though: If a HT (or Light tank, etc) is "buttoned", try to target them by using hotkey "n" (target next), if it lets you target the HT then you can be effective against it. If you just plain target a HT with the MG, the line may "stick" but he still may not be effective. So, make sure you remove all the MG's targets first, and then do hotkey "n" to see if you can damage him. Remember different MGs do different amounts of damage . . .the russian DsHK HMG is MUCH more effect against HTs and light armor than the Maxim, for example. Hope this helps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_the_wino Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Got a Marder with MG42 at 120ish meters. Ask Becket he was the loser on that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 If it's a regular 251/1 HT and it is shocked, then it can't shoot. Personnally I'd wait for some molotovs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 My experience on this one is that angle is the critical variable. German HTs are (medium) MG proof from the front - though you can still hit a CE crew member obviously. From the side they are not, but you need a very flat angle to the side to hurt them. ATRs and 50 cals will do them from the front, though the side is still easier obviously. The ATR problem is usually low behind armor effect rather than inability to penetrate. But you generally have the ammo for it so that is usually just a matter of time of exposure. They can't live long in LOS of a live ATR. As for MG 42s and 34s, I've seen them KO Russian lights up to ~10mm thick at typical combat angles and ranges, and the 8mm stuff goes down easily. But they won't get e.g. a BT series tank from the front, as opposed to an AC or tankette. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivodsi Posted September 30, 2003 Author Share Posted September 30, 2003 Thanks for all the advice. I'll try using the 'n' command a bit more - its one of the commands that I haven't really bothered with until now. Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivodsi Posted September 30, 2003 Author Share Posted September 30, 2003 So thats how double posts get created! You live and learn. [ September 30, 2003, 10:13 AM: Message edited by: Sivodsi ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Also keep in mind that some SP guns, namely Marders, Wespe/Hummel, and SU-76 are completely open to the rear. MG fire into their rear will kill them quickly without any regards to armor protection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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