AndrewTF Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 I've never been happy with the way the 44-dot camo uniforms turned out in my Waffen-SS late-war uniforms set, so I monkeyed with the colors until they looked better. It's a great improvement. I also took the opportunity to correct a few inaccuracies and I threw in a couple of little extra goodies as well (little goodies--don't get too excited). Plenty of reasons to download it again! Winter versions pretty much done, too. Look for them both at: where else? [edited to make post title more exciting] [ April 24, 2003, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: AndrewTF ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrene Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 It's a sin to let an AndrewTF mod post drift down without a *bump* Gyrene 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Originally posted by Gyrene: It's a sin to let an AndrewTF mod post drift down without a *bump* Gyrene Makes me want to go out and invade Poland. No offence to Andrew, but it's easy to get blase...after a while you get used to beautiful sunrises and don't stop to notice them (or drool, if you prefer) anymore... Doesn't make the sunrises any less beautiful.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beorix Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 nice work, like always.. just asked me when FJ mods for late war/winter ,and/or FG42 weapons, will be delivered it would be great to see this weapon in the game ,even if fg 42's were (very) scarce on the eastern front ,and are more accurate for CMAK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Looks Great!! Andrew, one questioin though, it had to be a b***h to get the chivken wire on the helmets, but isn't the wire a bit to large on the helmets?? What I mean is the gaps in the wire look a little to wide. I have a original helmet from the Kurland pocket, but maybe I'm just being a bit to picky on the helmet wire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Captain Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 As usual, simply awesome. Expect nothing less from Andrew! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted April 24, 2003 Author Share Posted April 24, 2003 Originally posted by tracer: Looks Great!! Andrew, one questioin though, it had to be a b***h to get the chivken wire on the helmets, but isn't the wire a bit to large on the helmets?? What I mean is the gaps in the wire look a little to wide. I have a original helmet from the Kurland pocket, but maybe I'm just being a bit to picky on the helmet wire. :mad: Last time I got lectured by Dorosh (back in the CMBO days) on the wire being too small :mad: Now you're telling me it's too big! From what I've seen, the wire sizes varied. I think it had to do with the size of the chickens. This wire was used to contain big roosters while obviously the original owner of your helmet had ripped off the wire from a farm raising poussins or cornish game hens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Don't know about all that, but it looks like the guys in the mod may have gotten thier wire from a hog farm or something though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted April 24, 2003 Author Share Posted April 24, 2003 Probably the same place where this guy got his back in the '40s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Now then do you see what I mean?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 But as I said in my earlier post, it must be a b***h to mod this on a helmet, so maybe it can't be modded to look any differnt. I mean after all, if it hadn't been for the earlier uniform mods you have done the figures in the game would look like crap, and that's always beena isuue, even in CMBO about the way the figures look. So anyway, I guess the hell with constuctive critisim, and just live with it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted April 24, 2003 Author Share Posted April 24, 2003 It's not as tough as you think. I just didn't want to get lectured on chickenwire sizes again. Actually, I initially, way back when, made a small version for CMBO, which was pointed out as "inaccurate", so I made a larger one analagous to the CMBB version seen here. Both looked ok, really, but the bigger one looked cooler so I stuck with it. Both are correct, so maybe I'll make a small one, too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Axe_ Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Chickenwire grogs? Now I've seen everything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted April 24, 2003 Author Share Posted April 24, 2003 Originally posted by Axe2121: Chickenwire grogs? Now I've seen everything. Hey, I'm just a victim of the chickenwire grogs! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Originally posted by AndrewTF: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Axe2121: Chickenwire grogs? Now I've seen everything. Hey, I'm just a victim of the chickenwire grogs! </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted April 25, 2003 Author Share Posted April 25, 2003 I don't feel bad . No matter how much research I do (I'm not a grog by any means but I'm a pretty good researcher) and how accurate I try to make things someone is bound to disagree. I think it's funny how things are usually voiced in absolutes, i.e. "never" and "always" instead of "rarely" and "often". Everybody's right most of the time, really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Look I'm not a "chicken wire grog", by no means, and your right I have a pack that is part russian and part german. And I only asked a question about the wire on the helmet. I wasn't making a statement. I get e-mails all the time about the mods I have done, and in some there are questions about camo schemes and such. I don't get all crappy about the questions, I think constructive critism is a good thing as long as it is constructive. So sorry if the question was taken wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted April 25, 2003 Author Share Posted April 25, 2003 Tracer - Sorry you took it that way. I thought I used enough smilies (like these )to indicate that I was taking the whole discussion in a light-hearted way. I thought it was amusing that the two times I made something like this the criticisms I received were exactly the opposite of each other (does that make sense?). I thought it was amusing, nothing more. Like I mentioned before: everybody's really right here, and there are no absolutes. And yes, I get e-mails all the time about my mods, too. Sometimes I ignore them and sometimes I take heed of the constructive criticism the contain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Axe_ Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Sorry Tracer. I guess I should have used a smiley too. No offense meant. I always get a kick about how much esoteric knowledge is out there in the forums. It seems there is no topic obscure enough that it won't get a quick answer. Unless it's trying to explain MasterGoodale. That's what makes this such a great place. Again, sorry if I came across as being snide. Cheers, Jason P.S. Superb work as always Andrew 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Murray Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Andrew: Everything I've seen in your W-SS mods pretty much matches up with what I've seen in my " Camouflage Uniforms of the Waffen SS " book. Please keep up the good work & thanks for all your effort. P.S. I used your LW infantry winter mod ( CMMOS'ed ) to repell a Russian armored attack. It looked & went really well. The Ivans died miserable deaths out on the ice. [ April 25, 2003, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: Rob Murray ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 No offense taken guys , I just hope that when people see something about a mod I do they won't mind telling me what they like or dislike. One thing that is needed a lot more (I think) is feed back (and on scenarios too).As long as it is meant in a good way, not like some of the idiots who have been on the forum posting things like "those look like clowns" and such. But my experience with CM and the community, is that the majority of the people are just good ole wargamers and history buffs, and that is what makes the game even better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted April 25, 2003 Author Share Posted April 25, 2003 I did make a version with smaller chickenwire last night, but it didn't look very good due to the distortion, which was mainly in the brim area. For some reason the larger pattern does not distort as much. I may remove the wire from the brim (as I have seen examples like this) and release that version for those who want it. My ultimate idea is to put together a "helmet pack" mod with different camouflage paint patterns, foliage, wire, etc. I was working on a version with rope netting that looked promising. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meach Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 Not really my place to say anything on the subject...but...I don't really care if the wire is too big/small/rectangular or made in Taiwan for that matter..AndrewTF has made a great mod and i am so envious of his skill. Cheers for the hard work and remember to reimburse the chicken farmers for all that "liberated" wire...lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 Andrew TF, thanks for darkening up the tone of your Dot-44 pattern! That was the only fault I had of your Dot uniforms! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 1st Hussars Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: Makes me want to go out and invade Poland. Whew! I thought I was the only one...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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