PantherG Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Has anybody noticed the German 37 AT HC penetration- It's a freakishly high 186. Also, often when you click on enemy vehicles that aren't fully indentified- such as assault gun?- that have hollow charge, the penetration will be listed as 0. Any thoughts? Sorry, wrong forum before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apex Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Ya, looks like this: Any questions as to why the high penetration? No? Fine apex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bab Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Originally posted by PantherG: Has anybody noticed the German 37 AT HC penetration- It's a freakishly high 186. Also, often when you click on enemy vehicles that aren't fully indentified- such as assault gun?- that have hollow charge, the penetration will be listed as 0. Any thoughts? Sorry, wrong forum before. I think I'm a very patient lurker, but now I'm fed up with your stupid threads. Stop it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 What's wrong with this thread pray tell? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellros Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Well it looks like in the pic that it's about the size of a panzerfaust warhead. And those have a pretty good penetration, so I'm not surprised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Nice find apex, really puts things into perspective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apex Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Yes. Sadly we don't have the Stielgranate for the 150mm IG ... same thing, just with 150mm, now that was some evil mother ... apex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Anything for the 75mm IG, or was it to short barrelled? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 What really stank about it was having to reload, especially on a vehicle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschugaschwili Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 That's probably why vehicles in CMBB don't get the Stielgranate. Dschugaschwili 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 It would make an interesting mod to see the crew trying to shove that thing down the barrel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Kloss Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 I wonder what was the accuracy and range of that HC round. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Max range was 300m, effective range maybe 200. Only 2 were issued per gun - real last ditch stuff!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Black_Devil Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 The Stielgranate-41, spigot bomb, or hollow charge round for the Pak36, gave the weapon a new lease on life. For those that might be interested, the Stielgranate-41's velocity was only 110 m/s. While its maximum range was 800m, its effective range was, as has already been mentioned; only 300m. Within any of these ranges, it was capeable of penetrating 180mm of armour. In game, if I've got a HC equipt Pak36, I try and keep them hidden until I can force a close range engagement, to maximize their chances of hitting, and therefore - perhaps - the number of targets my Pak36 can engage before it its self is knocked out. The Stielgranate-41, was one of the smaller details that I had hoped would be added to CMBB. Needless to say, I was was quite happy to see its inclusion. While I could be wrong here, I do believe however, that the Stielgranate-42 (for the Pak38) has been ommited from CMBB. I haven't seen it yet - and I have been looking, but that doesn't necessarily mean its not there. I'm not too excited about the Stielgranate-42, as I simply don't have any sources detailed enough that specify how widely it was used, or how many were ever produced (and when) - thus justifying its inclusion or lack there-of respectively. Perhaps someone else has more information on the Stielgranate-42 that might answer these questions. For those of you who are curious, the Stielgranate-42's penetration was exactly the same as the Stielgrante-41. The projectile was simply designed to work with a 5cm weapon as opposed to a 3.7cm one. Hope that helps 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG ThorsHammer Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Glad i came across this thread. As has already been mentioned, a hollow charge round fitted to the end of 37mms gave them new life. Those that watched band of brothers may remember the scene during the attack on Carenten when the Fallschrimjagers wheeled one of them into position and fired it at infantry. I have been unable to find any good info on numbers of these conversions, usage and the same of similar guns. Anyone have a good site or two? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 It weasn't a conversion - it was new ammo - the gun remained the same. Teh standard issue was 2 per gun - just d oa sarch on "stielgranate 41" for lots of sites. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG ThorsHammer Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 hmmm,,well in order to fire the new ammunition, a fitting was placed on the end of the barrel on which the large HC round was placed...I would say that is a conversion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted January 11, 2003 Share Posted January 11, 2003 Are you sure of that? I thought the spigot bomb just slid down hte barrel and over the existing shape, and was fired by a blank charge loaded in hte breach in the normal manner - so no mod required. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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