gredeker Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Question - What is the value of each country in MPP? That is, how much does a conquering nation get added to its own MPP, apart from the one-time pillaging bonus? Is it simply the combined MPP value of all cities/ports/mines? Or is it calculated some other way? And does anyone have a quick crib list of the values for each country and/or region (e.g., Egypt)? I guess that was more than one question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Originally posted by redeker: Question - What is the value of each country in MPP? That is, how much does a conquering nation get added to its own MPP, apart from the one-time pillaging bonus? Is it simply the combined MPP value of all cities/ports/mines? Or is it calculated some other way? And does anyone have a quick crib list of the values for each country and/or region (e.g., Egypt)? I guess that was more than one question... Redeker, Each occupied strategic resource is worth 80% of its value if a land-route can be traced to the occupiers' capital. If a land-rout cannot be traced, the value is 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rleete Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 So, SuperTed, you're saying that the mine in Norway, listed at 5 on the map is worth 2.5 MPP to the Germans? That because a land route can't be traced, it gets the 50% treatment? Rounded up or down? Or it is already figured in, and the 5 points is the value? Can these values ever be increased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Originally posted by R_Leete: So, SuperTed, you're saying that the mine in Norway, listed at 5 on the map is worth 2.5 MPP to the Germans? That because a land route can't be traced, it gets the 50% treatment? Rounded up or down? Or it is already figured in, and the 5 points is the value? Can these values ever be increased?RL, 5 MPPs already accounts for this. You'll notice the Ruhr mine is worth 10 MPPs and the French Fry mine is worth 8 MPPs (to the Germans). No, they cannot be increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gredeker Posted May 25, 2002 Author Share Posted May 25, 2002 Originally posted by SuperTed: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by redeker: Question - What is the value of each country in MPP? That is, how much does a conquering nation get added to its own MPP, apart from the one-time pillaging bonus? Is it simply the combined MPP value of all cities/ports/mines? Or is it calculated some other way? And does anyone have a quick crib list of the values for each country and/or region (e.g., Egypt)? I guess that was more than one question... Redeker, Each occupied strategic resource is worth 80% of its value if a land-route can be traced to the occupiers' capital. If a land-rout cannot be traced, the value is 50%.</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient One Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Originally posted by SuperTed: RL, 5 MPPs already accounts for this. You'll notice the Ruhr mine is worth 10 MPPs and the French Fry mine is worth 8 MPPs (to the Germans).Actually in the demo the Ruhr mine only goes up to 8, despite the fact that it is part of Germany and connected by land. As far as I know this seems to be the only exception to the rule, is it a bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Originally posted by redeker: Can the land route be through another nation on the same side? For example, Albania starts off as 5 MPP for the Italians; would it go up to 8 only if the Italians conquer Yugoslavia, or will it still go up to 8 if the Germans conquer Yugoslavia?[/QB]Redeker, Actually, if Yugoslavia is conquered by any Axis nation, the Albanian city and port both increase to 10! Albania is not an occupied territory according to SC. It is treated as part of Italy (don't tell the Albanians). Also, Yugoslavia doesn't need to be conquered. Once Bulgaria and Romania join the Axis, a land route can run through Greece instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 If you click on the resource or even if you click on a unit on a resource, it will tell you at the bottom right portion of the screen what the resource is worth in MPP's Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient One Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Does anyone have an explanation as to why the Ruhr mine can only go up to 8? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Originally posted by Ancient One: Does anyone have an explanation as to why the Ruhr mine can only go up to 8? :confused: AO, Good question. Oh, Hubert... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 I could be wrong, but it starts at 10 for me. Are you sure you are not talking about the one in France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Originally posted by Hubert Cater: I could be wrong, but it starts at 10 for me. Are you sure you are not talking about the one in France?Hubert, I checked the start of the 1942 campaign and it's at 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Yeah you are right, might have to do with me moving them around, blame Straha I'll fix it. Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 I'm just amazed that nobody has said anything about the French Fry mine being supersized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Originally posted by BloodyBucket: I'm just amazed that nobody has said anything about the French Fry mine being supersized.BB, One more crack like that and Hubert and I will be at your front door in under an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Bring a copy of the game and you can have the run of the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Originally posted by BloodyBucket: Bring a copy of the game and you can have the run of the house. Hey, Hubert, what do you say to a road trip to Washington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rleete Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Hey, I'm closer, and have a fully stocked bar and fridge. And I have two computers connected, so we can play without having to hotseat. What more do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Originally posted by R_Leete: Hey, I'm closer, and have a fully stocked bar and fridge. And I have two computers connected, so we can play without having to hotseat. What more do you need?RL, Good points all around. I suppose we could just split the difference and meet at Hubert's house. It's about halfway between us, if we fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rleete Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Oh, I'm sure he'd just love that. "Hubert, can you adjust this? And grab me another beer. Whadda ya mean, sleep? Barbarosa is just starting!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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