Scott Udell Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 Hey Scott...since you come here I have to ask...has the CG forums been scrapped?....my CG bookmark takes me to a new setup w/o the forums....sorry to digress off the topic everyone.. The CG Online site has been turned into just a blurb for the next issue (at least for now). The old CDMAG site (where the forums were still located) is still up, but will probably go down soon. We're trying to see if we can get the data files to move them to anothe WebX site. For more info, follow: http://www.cdmag.com/cgi-bin/WebX Go to the "Open" section, and check out the thread that will default at the top of the list. As for research I too don't necessarily feel that an investment *must* result in an ever-increasing chance of results each turn--that was only a suggestion, and, depending on how the dice rolls may be weighted, may be a bad idea. I guess we'll just need to see how it plays out over a series of games. Hmm... Perhas someone could run a model, over and over, on the probabilities of increasing a point in a particular area. To do this, though, we'd need some idea on whether or not any one particular avenue of research is weighted or not (the manual doesn't mention one way or the other). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 To do this, though, we'd need some idea on whether or not any one particular avenue of research is weighted or not (the manual doesn't mention one way or the other).There is no special weighting for the different avenues of research, %'s work the same for all categories and for each country. Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Udell Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 Okay, then it would be pretty easy to run through some loops, then. I'm not a spreadsheet modeler, but maybe I can give it a whirl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 I had one game where I had two points in Industrial Tech (from fall of the Low Countries). After receiving Industrial Tech 1 and the fall of France, I put a point into AT Defense, Heavy Tank, Long Range Air and shifted one out of Tech and into Jet Fighter. The next turn I got all five advances. Barbarossa was a blast. Oh, to be so lucky again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 This is a bug with the random number generator that recieved a seed of '0' on rare occasions, sorry to say that it has been fixed Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 As originally posted by Hubert Cater: This is a bug with the random number generator that recieved a seed of '0' on rare occasions, sorry to say that it has been fixed And here I thought those cold-shouldered Stars had finally... finally, begun to turn my way. But no, just another glacial gaze, eyes full of mis-seeded zeroes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzgndr Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 This is a bug And some people think I'm nuts. Just to satisfy my delusions of adequacy, could I get one of those secret beta boy decoder rings, one with a whistle thingy on it and everything? LOL! Seriously, only too happy to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 Dang, now I'll never get that lucky again. Thanks a lot, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient One Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 I haven't had much experience with getting many tech advances in one turn, but I have experienced getting tech advances repeatedly in consecutive turns. A couple of examples are: One game I had 7 points invested in research: 3 in Heavy Tanks, 2 in AT Guns, and 2 in Industrial Tech. Industrial Tech advanced 4 levels in 4 turns (0.0001 chance), there were no advances in Heavy Tanks or AT Guns during that time. Also, in the last game I played, there was only 1 point in both Industrial Tech and Advanced Subs, Industrial Tech advanced 2 in 2 turns (0.025 chance). Is this due to the same bug that results in many advances during the same turn? I've also noticed that this happens to Industrial Tech much more often than the others, has anyone else noticed the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 Nope, just the one seed bug, the rest is either bad or good luck. Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzgndr Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Dang, now I'll never get that lucky again. Sure you will, just not as often. We should all start to see a normal distribution of research advances once a patch is released. Luck being what it is, we'll see our fair share of good games and bad, as well as the occassional terrific and terrible. With the bug identified and fixed, it's all up to Lady Luck from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 What can I say? I like my dice loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old&Slow Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Hubert Cater: This is a bug with the random number generator that recieved a seed of '0' on rare occasions, sorry to say that it has been fixed HubertI just pre-ordered the Game and really look forward to it. Will this need a patch, if so when will we expect it ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 As originally posted by Ancient One: One game I had 7 points invested in research: 3 in Heavy Tanks, 2 in AT Guns, and 2 in Industrial Tech. Industrial Tech advanced 4 levels in 4 turns (0.0001 chance) If your calculations are correct, and given that Hubert has stated that this is NOT due to the nefarious Seed Bug, then you will have to play -- what? 10,000 more games for this same kind of fortunate Industrial Tech advance! Same goes for me with a couple of my "lucky" developments, which were not due to our little friend the Seed Bug. Well, that's the way it goes, eh? Just have to play many, many, many games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rleete Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Originally posted by Lars: What can I say? I like my dice loaded.Me, too. and my women, and my shotgun and... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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