Col. Gen. Guderian Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 i.e. Invade Russia in June 1941? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 hell no, you wait for as long as you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Kuni is correct, wait for the last possible moment based on Russia's readiness. Why? Because Nazi Germany can keep saving or using lots of MMP's, no need to rush the process. Before Barbaross, Germany is probably getting 400+, Italy 140, UK 140...it's a numbers game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Gen. Guderian Posted June 1, 2004 Author Share Posted June 1, 2004 But in the demo I usually invade Russia around september 1940. On top of the forces that originally invaded France, I usually have another Airfleet, 2 more panzer groups, another HQ, 3 Italian armies and an Italian HQ. Not to mention level 1 tech for heavy tanks and anti tank weapons. It usually does the trick and by May 1941 I have destroyed all of their armies. It's not hard at all. I'm only talking single player of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Key words, in the demo and single player . "AI doesn't count" - Rambo chapter 1, verse 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt88 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Colonel, Build up as much as you can before invading Russia, why wouldn't you when you can...? Now, playing the AI doesn't require any special skill, my girlfriend can beat the AI. If you face a good Allied player his defence of russia won't be AI-like and he will open up a second front as soon as possible. So Axis needs all the units it can get for the long game. Invade when Russian WE is at 95 or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sombra Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Lets sys the build up before barbarossa can reach slightly higher levels as your build up. Against a human player expect to see: Up to 8 tank groups, 7-8 LF, 5 HQs, 6-8 armies, 3-5 Korps + minors + 2 italian HQs + italian support troops. At least this is level I aim for in my games against a human player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMonkey Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Colonel, the SC cookie cutter plan for Barbarossa is 8-8-8 (that's the USSR behind the eight ball plan). Simply 8 AFs, 8 armies, 8 Tank groups, its all over by 43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Gen. Guderian Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 So does no one here really play single player at all then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 We all did the 1st time we got it, but the AI makes too many mistakes. Do some PBEM games or TCPIP if you have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin P. Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 I sometime attack the Russian player early in the Game right after I take France, Denmark, Greece and Norway. The result - there are no Russian forces along the German Border. Its a real shock to the human Allied player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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