Stalin's Organ Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 Can anyone identify this - probably Russian - I have thought it may be a dismounted a/c cannon, but really have no idea!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offtaskagain Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 My SWAG is a 14.5mm MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcm1947 Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 That's the damnest thing I ever saw, ugly too. Yeah looks Russian although I don't know why. Maybe the color looks Russian. Did they actually make a 14.5mm MG? Holy cow! Be interesting to actually find out what it was, not that I'm saying it's not the MG (14.5mm). Don't know. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niles Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 It looks like a modified standard Commie MG BUT, it could be an improvised weapon, so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 Rather mean of you not to mention that you want the answer so you can win a nice book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted June 21, 2001 Author Share Posted June 21, 2001 That assumes I've got the rest of the info!! Actually books on Russian medals don't interest me that much, but knowing what that ugly F**Ker is has got me hooked!! For those who want to know, there's a quiz on the !Russian Battlefield. Knowing what this thing is, when it was developed and it's calibre is 3/8ths of the answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalem Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 Icemaker? Toaster oven? Or a cognac snifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 I think it was a torture device used to extract information from prisoners. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 That is weird. I'll tell ya up front that I don't know what it is, but I'd bet money it isn't a machine gun. It looks to have too big a caliber for that. That muzzle brake/flash suppressor is distinctly odd. I don't think it's any kind of automatic weapon; it looks too lightly built for that. Might be some kind of recoiless rifle. I dunno... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 If I suggested it used an alternative form of propulsion than powder, would that twig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 That's the thing the germans used to shoot bratwurst into the stands during baseball games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted June 21, 2001 Author Share Posted June 21, 2001 It burned branches?? Gas powered - petroleum/ombustable or compressed air? 2/ Basically no - I still haven't go a clue!! Actually I thought it might be a flamethrower too at one stage...but see item 2 above..... [ 06-21-2001: Message edited by: Stalin's Organ ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niles Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 IT COULD BE A STATIC FLAMETHROWER< THE KRAUTS HAD EM, AND IT DOES HAVE A WIERD BAREL SO WHY NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 Could it be an anti-tank rifle on a carriage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 The Russian Peoples' Vodka Protection Cannon-43....? Gotta keep the Germans away from the Vodka, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscript Bagger Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pvt. Ryan: I think it was a torture device used to extract information from prisoners. Sorry.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> "Is it safe?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhammer Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 http://history.vif2.ru/ Thanks for sharing this site. It is one of the best WW2 sites I have seen yet. All future CM:BBers should bookmark this. As for the ugly gun, it looks like a 20mm ATG of some kind, likely an aircraft gun quick manufactured for battlefield use, and that is just a big guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Babra: If I suggested it used an alternative form of propulsion than powder, would that twig?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Whatcha got in mind, Babs? I admit I haven't a clue, but I'd hate to make an ass of myself...any worse than I already have, I mean. Where's Lewis? He's supposed to know everything. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhammer Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 The more I look at it, the more I think it is a modified AA gun from a warship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted June 21, 2001 Author Share Posted June 21, 2001 Self serving bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted June 21, 2001 Share Posted June 21, 2001 A russian Puppchen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedel Posted June 22, 2001 Share Posted June 22, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dittohead: That's the thing the germans used to shoot bratwurst into the stands during baseball games. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> This can not be. As seen on the Picture above this Item has a Caliber of aprox 14mm, but the German standartized Bratwurst has a max. diameter of 13mm (thats why the German Aircraft using 13mm MG´s). Plus the Germans never fired Bratwurst into the stands during Baseball games, because the Germans dont Played Baseball at that Time here is the Technical data of the German Bratwurst: lenght 16cm (u see longer then your P**** :cool: ) diameter 13mm weight 120 gramm Pork & Cow meat mixed with fat and Egg mantlet by a thin hull of sheepintestine and delivered usualy in a Sandwich. Damn Bastards ! Pork our Tiger, pork the Panther, pork our Infantry.... but keep your hands off our Bratwurst... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted June 22, 2001 Share Posted June 22, 2001 I'd say that item was a misunderstanding. It looks like a 37mm AA gun, on a light infantry gun chassis. The Russians did have a 37mm infantry gun early on, and that is the sort of chassis and shield you'd expect for that kind of piece. But it is a much, much smaller item. It may have been a field mod to get some useful AT capable infantry support weapon. Or it may have been a museum display error, in the sense that they knew part A was a 37mm infantry gun carriage, and asked for a 37mm gun to put on it as part B, and got the huge AA gun instead of the little dinky infantry howitzer - LOL. That's my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted June 22, 2001 Share Posted June 22, 2001 Jason, you are probably correct, but the questions in the quiz suggest that it was a production item, or at least an official prototype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maastrictian Posted June 22, 2001 Share Posted June 22, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Uedel: here is the Technical data of the German Bratwurst: lenght 16cm (u see longer then your P**** :cool: ) diameter 13mm weight 120 gramm <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I fear you are horribly, horribly incorrect and I am forced to correct your non-groggy ways. You see, a 1.3cm bratwurst that is 16cm long has a volume of: (.65 * .65) * 16 = 6.76. Assuming that Bratwurst slightly heavier than water (say 2g per cc) it rapidly becomes clear that your weight is off by a factor of 10! :eek: Unless of course you are refering to the ultra-dense uranium bratwurst, but that was only a prototype at the end of the war and will not be covered in CMBB. --Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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