Juardis Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 Forget the historical battles. Take a 60 turn CM game and make a movie out of it. In the place of the briefings, use situation maps and Generals telling Battalion commanders what the objectives are. Then film the movie from the Battalion commanders point of view with many many cutaways to the Company COs, platonn COs, squad COs and various other infantry/tank dudes. Each minute could be told from each side. The script is entirely dictated by a 60 turn CM scenario. Winners, losers, dead, wounded, fanatacism, cowards, all depicted on the big screen as shown on our little screens. You could even give it a historical background in that the OOB and battleground could be based on real WW2 battle, just the events that changed. I'd love to watch a 2 hour movie based on that. Gauranteed to be action packed. ------------------ Jeff Abbott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 i actually was considering making my own little original movie with cm providing the sets, chars, and props, then widescreen formattin it . and then rip off the end of seven samurai, the REAL best war movie of all time... ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show [This message has been edited by russellmz (edited 11-07-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 I propose a film made about Micheal Wittman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 nah, no US market, only the most hardened grognard wants to see a german wwii hero, otherwise everyone will assume he's nazi...we need one of the allies, maybe the polish. we were studying them in wwii history class: fight for freedom for everyone. only one armored division but well motivated...homeland under german control, making for a dramatic backstory. ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrew Hedges Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by russellmz: nah, no US market, only the most hardened grognard wants to see a german wwii hero, otherwise everyone will assume he's nazi...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, Das Boot was pretty popular in the US. Of course, they mostly fought the British, as did, on the Western Front, Wittman. Which is the actual key to making the movie successful. See, you get Mel Gibson to play Michael Wittman; that would bring in the crowds. And as we know from Mel's recent work -- Braveheart, the Patriot -- he really likes movies where he gets to kill the British. The only key is to not give Gibson too much editorial control, lest the crowd start rooting for the Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 yeah, pretty much the only country where u can kill people at will without protest in us movies are the brits. and i meant everyone will think the german character is a nazi, not the grog. but did das boot have gory combat deaths of brits shown or just the impersonal ship blowing up? ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Steiner Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 Actually, there were some rather nasty deaths of Brits depicted in Das Boot; all those sailors on fire, jumping from a burning oil tanker into a burning oil-covered sea. Nothing impersonal about that.. ------------------ "Follow me, and I'll show you where the iron crosses grow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 Andrew!!!! Oh Man!!!! You got me LMAO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Parts Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 I thought Hollywood was full of Nazis anyway. Talking of movies, wouldn't it be great to be able to view an entire CM game with each move back to back - a continuous 45 min movies file..? Is this technically possible does anyone know? At least the option to save certain turns to view again later would be nice. ------------------ "I like a man who grins when he fights." - Prime Minister Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveman Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 Here's an idea for a great war movie... the election of the US president is unbelievably close. One winner is declared, but half the country is pissed. Chaos ensues. Private Parts - Replaying an entire game in movie form is one of the highest items on the wish list. Last I recall they were seriously considering it for CM2, but it's not likely for CMBO. ------------------ "Whenever a mission ends and I still have a member of the red team standing, I have to ask myself: did I do enough to ensure my own safety?" - Old Man Murray review on SWAT3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Warphead- Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 Mel Gibson could play Wittmann's grandpa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Fredriksson Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by russellmz: nah, no US market, only the most hardened grognard wants to see a german wwii hero, otherwise everyone will assume he's nazi...we need one of the allies, maybe the polish. ...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Das Boot... Cross of Iron... to some extent Stalingrad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Bates Posted November 8, 2000 Share Posted November 8, 2000 You know, for all the talk about appealing to a worldwide market, all the best WW2 films have been made by German film companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted November 9, 2000 Share Posted November 9, 2000 Handy the topic of films came up... I was just thinking "Hey, when we had that thread about the best Second World War films, I should have mentioned None But The Brave!". Rather than watching a film made of a game of CM, why not just play the game? Films ideally have a storyline, instead of just lots of pictures of stuff blowing up (although you wouldn't guess that by watching the average Hollywood offering these days). David [This message has been edited by David Aitken (edited 11-08-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juardis Posted November 9, 2000 Author Share Posted November 9, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Aitken: Rather than watching a film made of a game of CM, why not just play the game? Films ideally have a storyline, instead of just lots of pictures of stuff blowing up (although you wouldn't guess that by watching the average Hollywood offering these days). David <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Because I can play the game anyway and anytime I want, but in the end, it's still just pixels moving across a screen. Any life I give to them is all in my imagination. At least with a movie, there is the human element. They can give character to each soldier/unit. Make us feel for them, make us feel the horrors of war. As good as CM is, it ain't quite there yet. Maybe with CM2? Oh yeah, and they could give them "letters from home" (TM Hasbro) ------------------ Jeff Abbott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted November 9, 2000 Share Posted November 9, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by russellmz: ... and then rip off the end of seven samurai, the REAL best war movie of all time... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! spoiler for the movie seven samurai!!! kanbei[karposki]: we've lost again. shichiroji[smith]: ? kanbei[karposki]: the farmers are the winners. not us. ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show [This message has been edited by russellmz (edited 11-09-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hank Posted November 9, 2000 Share Posted November 9, 2000 Hi - I don't want to burst any bubbles here, but IIRC Wittmann was in the SS. That pretty much makes him a Nazi... - Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted November 9, 2000 Share Posted November 9, 2000 What are you guys talking about? Every German, soldier or citizen was a Nazi. Nazism was THE political party of Germany from ~1933 to 1945. Hitler had everyone brainwashed in believeing in Nazism. Also Nazism is nothing more than extreme Nationalism. Of which could also be classified as extreme Patriotism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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