WineCape Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 I was wondering: Is there a CM tactics Handbook (do's & do'nts) that will help/guide the CM gamer in better understanding the different tactics of say tanks, infantry (in general) and the like? Especially for those players that is new to the wonderful word of wargaming. Could such a "primer" not be written with the help of the very people here on the bulletin board? I read some very useful information on the usage of Half Tracks in the Tech section. That will obviously be of great value to fellow gamers if posted under the section e.g. "A Combat Mission Primer" edited/compiled by the grognards here! Likewise the best ways to handle tanks in wooded areas, when to use 60mm and 81mm Mortars etc. What do you guys (in the know) say? Shall we call it the " The Combat Mission Primer/Tactics Handbook" then? Preface to the CM Primer:-- "Remember that no dumb bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for *his* country." --General S. Patton (US Army)-- PS: Mind you, the Americans were prone to yelling "TIGER!!!" even if it was a Kübelwagen sighted. [Allied (panic) reaction in the Ardenne offensive of WWII !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Joe Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 There is a lot of useful tactical advice throughout the manual. There is also a tutorial walkthrough in the back of the manual that discusses tactics. ------------------ Ah scheist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatherof6 Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 Try the Article section at CMHQ http://combathq.thegamers.net/articles/articles.asp . If you poke around in some of the other CMHQ sections you'll find a wealth of good information. But I'm not aware of any single "Primer" posted on the net. Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 Literally hundreds of book on tactics have been written. I've had decent success going to my local Barnes & Nobel and plopping down at the WWII section. Which ones you like are really a matter of personal style. That said, even if you have a good idea of what you want to do, tactically, learning how to actually execute those tactics once you develope them is something that you have to learn through experience. ------------------ Soy super bien, soy super super bien, soy bien bien super bien bien bien super super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 There are several training scenarios in the game. One has a walk through in the manual which should show you basic infantry and armor tactics. The others give you training exersizes to practice on. You are supposed to play these against the AI and the briefing at the beginning of each scenario tells you which side you are to play. Try these out to practice on. ------------------ Blessed be the Lord my strength who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 20, 2000 Author Share Posted August 20, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fatherof6: Try the Article section at CMHQ http://combathq.thegamers.net/articles/articles.asp . If you poke around in some of the other CMHQ sections you'll find a wealth of good information. But I'm not aware of any single "Primer" posted on the net. Glenn<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thanks Glenn for the info! -- The most dangerous thing on a battlefield is a one pip Luitenant with a map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 20, 2000 Author Share Posted August 20, 2000 Thanks also Minnesota Joe, Chupacabra, Wayne for the quick replies. I will be sourcing battle tactics info soon and post it for other gamers to pour over. The best would be I suppose rather to have web references pointing every now and then to the latest Tactics sections. Still waiting for my game here in SOUTH AFRICA! --The most dangerous thing on a battlefield is a one pip Luitenant with a map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanco Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 Hi winescape I am working on a website that will be exactly that, a 'GameSpot GameGuide' to CM, with only the most basic stuff in it. I'm using good advice I see on this forum, and other sources, to flesh it out. I can't say when it will be up though, there is a ****load of work to do, and nothing does itself. I want it to be pretty complete before I put it up, with sections on tactics, units, maps, etc. so a new player can consider it his one stop shopping place for info on CM. I'll keep everyone posted. DeanCo-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 21, 2000 Author Share Posted August 21, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by deanco: Hi winescape I am working on a website that will be exactly that, a 'GameSpot GameGuide' to CM, with only the most basic stuff in it. I'm using good advice I see on this forum, and other sources, to flesh it out. I can't say when it will be up though, there is a ****load of work to do, and nothing does itself. I want it to be pretty complete before I put it up, with sections on tactics, units, maps, etc. so a new player can consider it his one stop shopping place for info on CM. I'll keep everyone posted. DeanCo--<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hi Deanco If you need help with this especially with web address references I will be happy to oblige and make the Tactics Handbook as complete as possible. Let me know what information you are looking for. Cheers, Charl Theron "WineCape" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 21, 2000 Author Share Posted August 21, 2000 DeanCo Have a look at "guachi's" posting on 8/21/2000 @ 02:52 am. Seems pretty darn helpful! WineCape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 22, 2000 Author Share Posted August 22, 2000 The following German webring site with Jason McGrody's excellent firepower charts is also very helpful for CM addicts! http://www.gamesofwar.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted August 22, 2000 Share Posted August 22, 2000 You can go to this site and download numerous PDF files for your reading pleasure. Of special interests to CM players are the Combat Lessons learned pamphlets...a great source of tactics for US soldiers when facing the Germans... http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/DL/chron.htm Enjoy! ------------------ Webmaster http://www.trailblazersww2.org http://www.vmfa251.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 22, 2000 Author Share Posted August 22, 2000 Thanks Frenchy DeanCo, who is compiling a GameSpot GameGuide Tacticts handbook on CM will be delighted! Keep well and blast the enemy out of the foxholes! Charl Theron Stellenbosch, South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guachi Posted August 23, 2000 Share Posted August 23, 2000 Unfortunately, those firepower charts are a bit inaccurate. I found out that squad weapon allotment for German Panzergrenadier and Motorized Infantry changed from the time I did those charts to the release of the game. The changes were a swap out of a MP44 for a K98, I believe. And v1.04 change the FP ratings for some weapons as well. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 23, 2000 Author Share Posted August 23, 2000 Thats one good thing with BTS developers. They give people like Jason a hard time staying up with the facts because the revise/patch the game regularly! Sorry Jason, being sharp and up to date is tricky with Steve and Charles. BUT, don't stop. Your work is appreciated nevertheless!! Charl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 24, 2000 Author Share Posted August 24, 2000 For those more inclined to read excellent WWII tactics on tanks (German/Allied) herewith the following details taken from the same posting in the Tips section: Thanks MadDog0606 for your info! A} German Squad Tactics in WWII by Matthew Gajkowski. 5. German Panzer Tactics in WWII (by Charles C. Sharp) They can be bought at http://home.fuse.net/nafziger/index.html, though it is not a secure buying site. Nevertheless, MadDog0606 reported he bought over the phone ($20 each) and the books arrived duly a week later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofy Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 I thought that's what the AI was for, learning how to accomplish your mission on the battlefield thru trial and error. That way when you start PBEM or Hotseat games you at least know what you want to do, THEN you find out for sure that there's no ONE right way to do anything, but lot's of wrong ways! ------------------ Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 24, 2000 Author Share Posted August 24, 2000 Thanks DesertFox for this reference: David Honner has done a wonderful job presenting tons of penetration data and background information on his website. Pay him a visit at [url=http://www.wargamer.org/GvA/ This is for the REAL Combat Mission addicts that want to compare the weapons data of different nations during WWII. Well layed out. I wonder if BTS has seen/used/compiled some of this information in CM. As BTS themselves said, there is not written in stone penetration data for guns, but an approximation. At least BTS must be applauded for doing the trouble to reference the different authors on this topic to make this game real life as close as possible + playable Thanks Steve and Charles!! Charl Theron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 24, 2000 Author Share Posted August 24, 2000 Damn, I think I have forgotten to proper hotlink html the web address above! Anyone there to refresh me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guachi Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 Change the '=' to a ']' Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobVarak Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 Check out the tactics section of the CM Reading List. ------------------ Rob Varak Editor Site on Sound: The Web's Premier Site For Musical Discussion www.siteonsound.com CM Recommended Reading List Moderator www.siteonsound.com/CMReadingList.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineCape Posted August 25, 2000 Author Share Posted August 25, 2000 Thanks Jason and specially Rob~ for your info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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