Chris Jenkins Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 Just saw the first episode of "War of the Century." It was fantastic! I felt that the document evidence was very revelatory. Who else saw it? ------------------ "Rinky dinky stinky thinky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 Hell,I am watchin it a second time (On the Least Coast ) ------------------ -Rookie Cactus Air Force Homepage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 Saw it tonight and thought it was very interesting. Apparently Stalin tried several times to make peace in 1941 but the Germans would'nt allow him to. 3 years later they were kicking themselves for this. ------------------ Blessed be the Lord my strength who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipper Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 Nope don't belive it..if stalin wanted peace an belive me he woulda have to had given away half of russia to get it it woulda been war a short time later fool me once....well you no the saying don't belive that crap their feeding ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Johnson-<THC>- Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 Yes, it is a great piece of work. Most people in the West don't have any clue as to what kind of hell was experianced by those who were forced to fight on the eastern front. This did a great indepth job on it. All week long I get to watch more CM2 on the history channel, I can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jenkins Posted August 15, 2000 Author Share Posted August 15, 2000 Yep, I watched it twice, myself! ------------------ "Rinky dinky stinky thinky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgdpzr Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 Outstanding! I, too, loved the documents they uncovered. But the greatest part of this first episode, IMO, was the amount of color film they show. It is very rare to see German color film, especially from so early in the war. Great documentary series. I will be watching these numerous times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jenkins Posted August 15, 2000 Author Share Posted August 15, 2000 There is a companion book for sale with these photos. There are even more of Hitler and company. Amazing, they seem more real, more threatening in color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rainey Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 Which Cable Network????????? Haven't seen anything about it John ESSAYON'S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIX Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 The War of the Century is on The History Channel at 700pm MST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paullus Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 I believe Stalin tried to make peace several times during the first 18 months of the war. If only to buy time for the Red Army to recover, since even Zhukov was unsure as to whether or not the Red Army could stand another German offensive in 1942 (especially when the Russian Spring offensive was annihilated in May 1942). Even if Hitler & Stalin did come to terms (maybe losing the Ukraine, the Baltics, and Belorussia in the process), both sides knew that a final showdown was inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael emrys Posted August 15, 2000 Share Posted August 15, 2000 With benefit of hindsight, my thought is that the best Hitler could have done would have been to come to terms with Stalin in August of 1942 and pray to win the rearmament race in time to reopen hostilities in 1943, meanwhile liquidating the threat from the British and Americans, a fairly tall order in itself. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grognerd_Fogman Posted August 16, 2000 Share Posted August 16, 2000 For all those that missed/or will miss some of the weekly episodes I checked at the Historychannel.com site an they'll be airing all four episodes in a row this Sunday August 20th from 3PM - 7PM (EST). Get ur recorders ready cuz I'm gonna... ------------------ Thanks for Athskin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jenkins Posted August 16, 2000 Author Share Posted August 16, 2000 Who saw tonight's episode? Giving that boy a sack of excrement to eat was insane. The Ukraine sure took it on the chin in that war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Posted August 16, 2000 Share Posted August 16, 2000 If price is no object, you can go here and buy the entire set for $59.95. http://store.aetv.com/cgi-bin/ae.storefront/0/Ext/OutsideFrame/UT/32/Product/42969 ------------------ To conquer others is to have power, To conquer yourself is to have strength. -Lao Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 I've now seen the entire series. Frankly, as fascinating and informative as it was, I feel as though I was invited to the banquet and only allowed a few savory snacks. For a program billing itself as The War of the Century, I saw very little of the war proper. Episode 1 Barbarossa-Battle of Moscow Episode 2 Partisan/Counterpartisan Ops Episode 3 Stalingrad Campaign Episode 4 Bagration ('44)-Victory I don't know whether some dingdong flubbed contract writing, the History Channel couldn't afford the whole series or what. I do know that we only got to see the beginning and the end of the Eastern Front campaign and that we saw nothing of such minor events as the Destruction of Army Group Center and that nothing armored engagement called Kursk. We learned nothing of the development of Russian offensive tactics, nothing about armored warfare, were lucky to even see Tiger tanks. Where is the meat of the war we were promised? Oops! Someone forgot to include it. Maybe it was edited out? Sign me "Bitterly Disappointed." John Kettler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Jenkins Posted August 18, 2000 Author Share Posted August 18, 2000 Yep, that was it. I thought the series was quite good. It was more built around the new information and oral history than the entire history of the operation. That would have to be like "The World at War," but devoted only to the Eastern Front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIX Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 In the book Forgotten Solier the author talks about the ruthlessness of the Russian Partisans. Does anyone remember was it the first of second episode that showed the footage of partisans hanging that women? Will there be partisans in CM2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 I have to agree with John and Chris. While the series was well produced, it left a lot to be desired on the military side. Instead, it focused on the human aspect. I am not saying that this was wrong, but it was obviously the way the producers wanted to approach the subject. There were a lot of topics (mentioned in previous posts) that were not given the light of day. This, I feel, short-changed the viewer. I found myself turning it off with 15 minutes left in the last episode. ------------------ Webmaster http://www.trailblazersww2.org http://www.vmfa251.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 I have to agree with John and Chris. While the series was well produced, it left a lot to be desired on the military side. Instead, it focused on the human aspect. I am not saying that this was wrong, but it was obviously the way the producers wanted to approach the subject. There were a lot of topics (mentioned in previous posts) that were not given the light of day. This, I feel, short-changed the viewer. I found myself turning it off with 15 minutes left in the last episode. ------------------ Webmaster http://www.trailblazersww2.org http://www.vmfa251.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbo Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 "I believe Stalin tried to make peace several times during the first 18 months of the war." Yes , this came to light becuase the Bulgarian ambassador was used as the intermediary to "sound out" the Germans on what peace terms would be required. Bear in mind this wasnt unusual. The Bolshevieks had accepted an incredibly unfair peace treaty in 1918 to stop the war and there is every reason to beleive that Stalin would do the same again if he thought it would buy him time. As it turned out all the signs he got back were of the "unconditional surrender" variety so the idea was dropped. cheers, _dumbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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