Thermopylae Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 Just wondering, what does one of these look like? i realize that they were fairly ad hoc, but what would be a generic one? I'm Guessing: 1-2 Panthers + 1-3 Mk 4s = standard armor platoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 a generic ad-hoc??? ~john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 In theory the platoon should be equiped identically, as were companies. However different coy in the same regt would have different gear. Of course this works fine on paper or in 1939 but I think by mid '44 you took whatever the logistic chain gave you. ------------------ Regards, Mark:-{) Anxiously awaiting the G4 PowerBook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastables Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 Panthers and PIV tended to be kept as discreet units, at company level and below. What you are likely to see is PIV, StuG Combo Company’s or Panther PIV/70. At battalion level Panthers and PIVs mixed but platoons tended to be kept as like with like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 According to HAndbook of German Military Forces, A Heer tank company was either made up of PzKpfw IVs, or PzKpfw Vs, but not both. Organisation was (excluding support vehicles etc) Company HQ : 2 AFVs 3 x Platoons of 4 AFVs Each SS Panzer Platoons had 5 AFVs each, rather than 4. Mace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarmo Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 Jagdpanthers were always supposed to operate in groups, not singly. Does this also go for the Jagdtigers? Do I always need to grab a platoon if I want to play realistic? Hetzers, marders and other smaller hunters. Single units, full platoons or a mixed bag of fun? How about King Tigers, were they a Tiger I platoon power-ups, or were they used in KT only platoons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Petersson Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 I think Mace got it right. Just want to add that the typical Panzer Reiment was one battalion each of PzKw IV and PzKw V. (Each full strength battalion had three companies.) Sometimes the shortage of tanks made some companies have StuG IIIG instead. Other than that the Panzerjäger companies had three batteries (not platoons by name) of 4-5 ATGs (towed or armoured) and were separate from the tank regements. Armoured Panzerjäger companies used one type of Jagdpanzer for the whole company. Jagdpanzers used within the CM time frame were: Marder, StuG IIIG (no F or earlier versions), Hetzer, Jagdpanzer IV (all versions), Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger and possibly also StuG IV. Jagdpanther and Jagdtiger were used by the heavy Panzerjäger battalions, that never were an organic part of any division, just like the heavy tank battalions. (As a result of the above, there might have been a Panzer division with StuG IIIGs in both the Panzerjäger company and in the tank regiment, the formers crewed by artillery men and the latters by tankers...) Cheers Olle [This message has been edited by Olle Petersson (edited 12-21-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastables Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 The important bit is that Veh were never mixed at platoon level, only at coy level and even then not in an ad-hoc fashion. eg StuG+PIV, Panther+PIV/70(V), StuG+Hetzer, StuG+Marder or french lash up, StuG+PIV/70(A), PIV+PIV/70(A) these are the mixs which offhand are supplied to the units. A independent StuG Battailion/Abetilung will never have PIV/70(V) issued although there is a chance that it may have been one of the lucky ones to be issued the PIV/70(A) from the 100 that were earmarked for the StuG boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarmo Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 Complicated business. Any more insights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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