Runyan99 Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 While playing VoT as the Germans I had a number of infantry squads get captured by charging American infantry. Then, to my astonishment they disappeared after maybe 5 minutes of captivity, leaving no marker or indication of where they left the map. If the victor is going to take a unit captive, shouldn't they be responsible for guarding that unit for the rest of the game? Making them disappear seems too easy. Does this simulate the disarmament of the unit? What is going on? ------------------ "Artillery is a terrible thing. God, I hate it." Pvt. David Webster 101st airborne 1942-45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffRaider Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 I've never seen them just disappear, but I have seen the little bastards become uncaptured when not in close attendace of one of my units, and race away. Sort of makes me wish there was a "War Crime" option. As Charles B. Macdonald said: "Company G committed a war crime today. We're going to win the war, though, so I suppose it doesn't matter." (Possibly slightly paraphrased, done from memory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 They are no longer under your control. Once they are out of LOS, they will disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtz Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 Disapperaring prisoners!? Sound more like South America than Western Europe to me... The Horror! The Horror!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bratch Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 Since I am the other half of that game I will add my view. The units are still visible to me. I moved them all to one central location and am gaurding them with a single unit. (Check the small house just at the bottom of the hill in the center) I don't know why you can't see them, they are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juju Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 Bratch, do you mean to say you can actually move POW's yourself??? ------------------ Combat Axiom #49. It could be worse. It could be me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bratch Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 Juju Sure, once you have captured a unit you can give it orders to move just like one of your own units. This is especially beneficial if you take large numbers of prisoners. Send them to a makeshift POW camp and gaurd them with a single unit. Be careful though not to send them on a long nature hike without friendly units nearby or they will escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bratch Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 This is a frivolous post just to achieve a promotion to member status. WoooooHoooooo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juju Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 Thanks, Bratch! Been playing this demo since november '99 and never came up with the idea of just trying to see if it was possible. Cool feature! Gonna try to make some POW's in my current PBEM. Oh boy, I can hadly wait! ------------------ Combat Axiom #49. It could be worse. It could be me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beman Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 Here's my understanding of the situation: Runyan is playing the Germans. Bratch is playing the Amis. Bratch recently captured some of Runyan's troops, and now Runyan reports that he can't see them, but Bratch can command the POWs. Is this correct? If so, then this is the way it's supposed to be. Once Runyan's Ami troops are captured, Bratch takes over their command. Because they're no longer Runyan's troops, they don't generate any LOS for him (they become, for LOS purposes, "enemy"). If none of Runyan's effectives can see the POWs, they will disappear, same as any other enemy troops. DjB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bratch Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 Talk about a letdown!! Where is my member status after 30 posts? BooooooHoooooo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bratch Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 OK, I take back my last post. I am a "MEMBER" now! Does that mean I will have endless intelligent comments and insight? Doug, you are right. Since Runyan99 does not have control anymore and I moved them out of LOS of any of his units he would naturally not be able to see them. Excellent job BTS, you guys think of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beman Posted May 23, 2000 Share Posted May 23, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>I am a "MEMBER" now! Does that mean I will have endless intelligent comments and insight? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Nah, it just means you've gone from "Slackass Posterboy" to "Slackass PosterMAN," like the rest of us Members. Welcome to the club! DjB [This message has been edited by Doug Beman (edited 05-23-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorbuff Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Ok so Can we gather the P.O.W.s in a field and mow them down with machine gun fire? That would free up units for combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Probably.. I've heard of people marching them through minefields to get rid of them. But then again whats the point? They're worth more points alive anyways (no pun intended) But if you wanna get rid of them you may be able to target them (never tried) or you can just do an area target.. or you could just get a single squad member, split a squad, or maybe some left over tank crew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyland Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Regarding Sublime's post, Tank or mortar crews are excellent choices to watch the troops as they only have pistols (or less), therefore limited combat potential. Something fun to do with VOT is march your American POWs just far enough up the hill in the back so the American player can admire all your prisoners, yet your troops are still out of sight(not too cruel, I hope) Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Uh-oh. Did someone say they are worth more to the capturer alive? So it's to my beastly advantage to call down arty where my men are being held prisoner? That seems mighty game-y to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 No, it is not gamey, because the same artillery barrage called upon ENEMY troops will most likely yield the same net points (not speaking about hurting the enemy's fighting capabilities). Besides that freed prisoners are worth more to YOU - when you kill them, the enemy still gets some points for capturing them previously, while when you free them, the enemy is denied ALL of the points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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