mav1 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 What is a super pershing? I know the americans developed a pershing with a high velocity gun. Also another pershing with more armour. But i don't know of a pershing with a high velocity gun also with thicker armour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 mav1, This should help. For details on the add-on armor applied once the Super Pershing was in theater, see Belton Cooper's DEATH TRAPS. Believe he was directly involved in the armor add-ons. http://www.3ad.com/history/news/super.pershing.1.htm Here's what they looked like. As you can see, they were extensive. http://www.hsgalleries.com/gallery04/m26e3jw_1.htm Here's master modeler and armor expert Steve Zaloga's Super Pershing, showing the add-on armor pieces from several angles. http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/usa/superpershing_szaloga.html Here's his book, which covers the Super Pershing and is searchable. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1841762024/ref=pd_sl_aw_alx-jeb-9-1_book_13569641_1/103-5743728-5876644?n=283155 Here's a book on Pershings and more which covers the Super Pershing. http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/usa/afvisual018_jprigent.html Earlier, expensive book here http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0208020063/103-5743728-5876644?v=glance&n=283155 Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav1 Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 Thanks for the info John Kettler. If they put the super pershing in cmbo, they could of put the centurion in. The British needed something better than what they have. Why didn't the americans build super pershings rather than the ordinary pershing after the war? [ August 07, 2006, 09:12 AM: Message edited by: mav1 ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 mav1, You're welcome! The Super Pershing was included, I believe, because it saw combat, whereas the Centurion did not. The most advanced British tank in CMBO is the Comet. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 What are the double tubes placed atop the turret? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Kingfish, I believe they're equilibrators to help support the massive added mantlet armor. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav1 Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 Originally posted by John Kettler: mav1, You're welcome! The Super Pershing was included, I believe, because it saw combat, whereas the Centurion did not. The most advanced British tank in CMBO is the Comet. Regards, John Kettler Well, the centurion missed ww2 by a few days, they could of squeezed it in. So why did the americans not build the super pershing instead of the pershing after the war? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 mav1, The answer you seek is probably in one of the books I cited. If not, it is almost certainly in the definitive Pershing study by Hunnicutt. There were only three Super Pershings built, of which only one bore the many tons of add-on field expedient armor. These were basically experiments rushed into service to help desperate tankers. The extreme barrel overhang alone made them not generally practical. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TufenHuden Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I wonder if the JS-3 made it to see combat- the CMBB mod doesn't match the RL-tank itself, but modded to the JS-2-JS-3 looks awesome though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 TufenHuden, From what I can tell, that debate rages on. I haven't played with whatever is in CMBB myself, though. Just tried to go to Battlefield.ru to see what might be new on the topic, but the site wouldn't open. No idea why. According to this, though, if the IS-3 did see combat, it was in Manchuria in the form of a single regiment during August Storm against the Japanese. http://www.answers.com/topic/iosif-stalin-tank This one says no European use but mentions no Manchuria employment either. http://www.onwar.com/tanks/ussr/data/is3.htm Regards, John Kettler [ August 17, 2006, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: John Kettler ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtsjc1 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 The Hunnicutt book is excellent with many pictures not published elsewhere. I got this book more than 20yrs ago and it was expensive then. Great reference if you can find it and want to pay a high price. Joe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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