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2 hours ago, Ivan Zaitzev said:

I'm playing a scenario in CM:A where I have to escort a convoy to an exit victory location. One of my BMP is immobilized, I wonder should I leave it or should I bail out the crew and exit them?

I'm asking for a general scenario, not this case in particular.

Run a test. Save the turn and then play it out with the crew exited. Then go back to the saved turn and play it out with the crew not exited. Then compare the points at the end of each play through.

Michael

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I did a test, rescuing you men means the vehicle is destroyed so you lose points that way. Leaving you men in the vehicle means no vehicle lost, at least in this particular scenario, game, engine, etc, but you are not exiting the vehicle and loosing points that way.

The first time I rescued my men, lost the vehicle and got a draw (You have to kill all those sneaky mujahideen before they disappear in the mountains or no points for you). But when I tried a couple of times to leave the men I always get a minor defeat.

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15 hours ago, Ivan Zaitzev said:

I did a test, rescuing you men means the vehicle is destroyed so you lose points that way. Leaving you men in the vehicle means no vehicle lost, at least in this particular scenario, game, engine, etc, but you are not exiting the vehicle and loosing points that way.

The first time I rescued my men, lost the vehicle and got a draw (You have to kill all those sneaky mujahideen before they disappear in the mountains or no points for you). But when I tried a couple of times to leave the men I always get a minor defeat.

It depends how the scenario designer has set up the VPs, in simple terms there is a relationship between 'Destroy' objectives and 'Exit' objectives. As an example the designer could not allocate any VPs at all to dismounts carried in the BMP but set the BMP as a 'Destroy' objective. In this instance, the dismounts could stay or exit the map and there would be no impact on the VPs; however the BMP and its crew must exit the map to gain the VPs. If, as in this case, the BMP is immobilised, you will get a percentage of the allocated BMP-related VPs for any crew that exit the map.

Page 21 of the engine manual has this to say about it:

If the enemy has a Map Exit Objective, then you will gain points for all designated Destroy/Destroy All units that do not leave the map before the battle is over.

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