snarre Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Tjust wanted to ask if steve or any one els gived any gind reason why stug 3 is more expensive than PZ4 , this thing is wondered me really long time and i didint find anything on forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I don't know why.They all have the same gun.In general the tank would be considered more valuable do to its moving turret.The Pz4's have about 50% more ammo(which makes the Pz4 a real good bye) than the Stugs.The only thing I can think of is they must have better armor and are better "tank hunters"do to their low silhouette. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobetco Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) this is because the mk4 is trash...well that's being a little harsh. the mk4 is let down by its turret armor. I have in the past lost and taken out mk4s with 37mm cannons. and i don't mean immobilized or lost its main gun rendering it useless, i mean full on knocked out. the stug without its turret is at a disadvantage to the mk4 G and H (not the J, it has no turret motor so might as well be turret less). the earlier stugs also don't have great machine gun capability, and they all have an overall lower shell count, but i still feel the mk4 is less valuable then a stug. STUG LIFE Edited January 1, 2017 by Cobetco stug life 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 at what range did the 37mm knockout the pz4? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobetco Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 don't remember, its been a while since its happened (maybe it was a bug then?) but I seem to recall it being around ~200m. which i will admit is fairly close for an armored engagement, but is kinda a normal everyday range in the bocage in CMBN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivefivesix Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I know that I would much rather face a mk4 than a stug, especially if my opponent knows how to manoeuvre it effectively. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarre Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 yep this things are correct but moustly its feels weird because stug3 was 1 of moust common vehicle in german army . Now its feels sou dam expensive to use . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 In the CM1 games it's the other way around and people complained about that too. I think CM2 gets it right, although as always the value of armor is relative to what's shooting at it and I suspect that Sherman 75s and T-34/76s are much less common in QBs than they were in reality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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