RMC Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 Re: CC and SPR sounds. Not all CC sounds were "public domain." Most of the voice cues, at least, were copyrighted by Microsoft which is why SSI had to come up with replacements for CC4. I haven't played with any sound mod so I have no idea what's been changed. If some CC1-3 voice cues were used then there may be a legal issue. I modded sounds in those CC games using sounds that I made as well as sounds from other games like "Incubation." I never offered them to anyone because of copyright concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shaw Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 Well said Matt, I agree. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 Man, it's dissapointing to see so many people saying pirating is OK so long as Colin releases his mods ( which are MONTHS away). Sorry but stealing is stealing. If he has bought CM but has d/led a warez version then he is still stealing. That people here think it's AOK for him to do that says a lot about them IMO. It says that they don't see stealing by someone else as wrong if there's something in it for them. Ron, Can you rephrase what you said, I honestly couldn't understand what you were saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 Greetings all, Pardon my ignorance on this whole issue, I just have one simple question. Why didn't Colin ask for a copy of the game to continue working on the textures? Considering the excellent work he's done so far, I'm sure BTS would have given him one. Just my opinion, FWIW ------------------ The dead know only one thing - it is better to be alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rollstoy Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>3. He HAS publicly shown and stated that he has CM and is in Australia. Therefore he d/led it from a warez site.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Fionn, even you are right, this was one of the most disgusting and slandering posts anybody ever wrote on this forum. I am speechless! What is it with you? Are you jealous of him? Even if he d/l the thing the really damaged was done when he was accused of it! My God, this is so low ... Shocked, Thomm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PawBroon Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fionn: Man, it's dissapointing to see so many people saying pirating is OK so long as Colin releases his mods. ... That people here think it's AOK for him to do that says a lot about them IMO. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Fionn, You're right. But most of us who said that we were willing to see those MODS finished hadn't been promoting hacking. If it's what it looks like, then I want to say that I STRONGLY object software piracy. More even, I RESENT that. Because I want BTS to succeed far more than I'm waiting for ANYONE's MODS... I've always viewed piracy as a paradigm of the scorpio and frog variety. It kills the frog and in the long run won't help BTS ability to deliver quality product. BUT, I love even less lynch mobs. That's all. Fionn, since you're playing as Free French in one of your game you can't be all bad . I guess we love that game soooo much (even those of us who haven't EITHER received it OR Warezed it) that we are over protective and ready to claw at anyone not showing proper respect. It's a community, let's try not to be over offensive. Some guy is a racist, ignore him. Some other is a stupid "Look at me" kid, ignore him. Some one is a cybercriminal? Ignore him, ignore his posts. And a last one is French and has opinions on everything, IGNORE ME... Boy I hate it when threads are going down in the dump like that. ------------------ Either he's dead or my watch has stopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:USERNAME: Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 Prejudice comes from prejudging. Its just in someones character here to be a prig and self-rightous. Maybe thats why he likes them WWII germans so much. Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 OK, I am closing this one up. The facts are as follows... 1. CCJ is using a warez copy. There is no conjecture. 2. We do not condone such action even by someone who is entitled to a legal copy. In fact, we are a little peeved about it. All legal and morale issues aside, it is a little more than irrating to us (I'm being kind here) that CCJ flaunted the fact that he downloaded the illegal version. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:USERNAME: Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 Cant CCJ sue for libel/slander? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgotmypassword Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 mfred "So, tell me how the warez site got the game so early in the first place????????" The Warez scene revolves around status. -you get status for having a particular software cracked first. -you get status for breaking hard protection like hardware dongles and progs which have multiple protections in numerous spots. CD-keys and CD-required to play are not hi-status protections aka they are trivialy cracked. 0-day warez were the norm a couple years ago (not sure now) that means you or more likely your 'gang' of crackers/coderz/courierz got the progie cracked and spread the same-day or even before being shipped to retail. To answer the question above, they probably got it from the CD-mastering service that BTS used. BTW Organized crime is into the forging of software (manuals, holographic pictures, all that) big ticket stuff like Office and Windows not games, not warez. There is little to no money in warez, duh! You can down load it for free. There are some service's for a price like some guy in the Czech republic that will send you a DAT tape per month of "all" the warez for that month and the fabled $1 CD's from HK containing hundreds of programs. About the sites endless pop-ups, porn, and other baner adds etc, those are all a gimick. 99-100% of those just lead around in circles to get lots of hits. Almost all you will find are cracks and files that are really free anyway like that SP world at war thing. A software company can make casual copying a pain which is usually enough to limit causual thieves but you can not stop warez through technical means. A final observation. I bought CM. I want BTS to be successful (mostly cause I want to see the demise of the current publishing/distribution model of software and other media (BTS is self pub/distrib) but, also because they made a terrific freaking game and deserve to it. Although I hope they consider a linux port for cm2, (more market share than Mac, BTW) But, some of you guys blow things all out of proportion. C'mon, there are more important things to get your knickers in a twist about than $50, $50 that BTS actually got in this case. Take your frustrations out in the 'CM field of battle' not on each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMC Posted June 26, 2000 Share Posted June 26, 2000 I don't think he was flaunting it. He was just anxious to show off his creations. He didn't realize that "constable Fionn" was tracking all shipments around the globe and would be able to catch him. Well, actually Fionn caught it when CCJ mentioned that the quick battles were cool or something. Flaunting would have been to say "all you dummies are waiting for CM, well I got one..free." CCJ is smart enough at least to know that the people here do not support getting pirated rips or isos. He goofed. He responded to someone else's post because he was excited and got busted. If he hadn't goofed no one would have ever known and we would have had a nice texture set to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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