Tempestzzzz Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Haven't seen pictures on tanks except mounted-were they brought in by support units before battle? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 The 'removable roof' for this time period was just a tied-down tarpaulin, I think, bundled-up and strapped to the turret side. Unless there was some weird weather sealing for ocean shipment that we don't know about. Late war some units started welding on make-shift armor roofs. I don't think an official DoD-condoned armor roof arrived until after the war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempestzzzz Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 Okay-Thanks, Mikey D. As an aside I remember in the original Panzer Elite they had one graphic (where you chose your unit makeup) that showed an M-10 TD with what looked like a huge outdoor folding umbrella for shelter over the turret. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Seems like I can recall seeing photos of either M10s or M36s with some kind of metal grill over the turret to keep out hand grenades. Michael Edited April 17, 2016 by Michael Emrys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinaldi Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) M36s in game are only the M36 and M36B1, to my knowledge the version with the roof would be the B2; of which less than 300 were converted or produced and shouldn't feature in the time period of the game. Now, as for jury-rigged defenses like chicken wire, not out of the question given all the unique modifications we see on Shermans and similar vehicles from the time period; but is it worth even abstracting for the game? It would be purely cosmetic and hard to justify the effort. Edited April 17, 2016 by Rinaldi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Tempestzzzz, Zaloga's book on US tank destroyers has some good pics showing the various improvised and field made (think Cullen cutters) roof armor. To my knowledge, there were no factory roofed M10s or M36s. The OT configuration allowed gun depression angles tanks couldn't match, very helpful when firing downward and exposing little of the TD, but rather grim for the crew. Hmm. Wonder whether our TD guys ever traded war stories with the Marder and Nashorn guys regarding the joys of OTness, as it were? Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) M36B2 is the M36 turret on a diesel M10 TD chassis. The overhead roof program is only coincidental with it. But coincidental or not, the M36B2 started production in May '45 so yeh, all the late production goodies got added to it. I recall the old Tamiya M36 was really an M36B2, the incorrect engine deck caused countless headaches for modelers. Oh and also - future modules should catch the game up with late war added armor vehicles. They were originally intended for the basegame until introduction dates on the late war armor upgrade programs turned out to be beyond the January timeline. Edited April 17, 2016 by MikeyD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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