LUCASWILLEN05 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31528981 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 "Nato is getting ready," I would be more impressed if that were backed up by serious increases in defense spending. Most NATO counties barely have an army anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) I would be more impressed if that were backed up by serious increases in defense spending. Most NATO counties barely have an army anymore. NATO's official QRF should be ready by 2017 from what I have read. That isn't the same as the entirety of NATO "Getting ready" but its better than nothing. Edited February 19, 2015 by Raptorx7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 In any case, I wish them luck. We could use some "real world" weapon performance data 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUCASWILLEN05 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 I would be more impressed if that were backed up by serious increases in defense spending. Most NATO counties barely have an army anymore. Effects of the defence cuts made under he so called "peace dividend" of the 1990s andthen 2he 2008 Financial Crisis. Informed people questioned the wisdon and extent of those cuts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Informed people questioned the validity of massive defence spending when governments were not (and are still not) balancing their budgets. If you fail to do that situations like Greece occur. Of course the media is now softening the masses that more is needed to be spent on the military. But what cuts to other vital services have to be made? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Informed people questioned the validity of massive defence spending when governments were not (and are still not) balancing their budgets. Agree. I'd like to add, that from my point of view, it's not only the sums, it's how you use and spend them. How effectively resources are used to support the military capability of the country? Edited February 22, 2015 by wee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Zeitgeist Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I would be more impressed if that were backed up by serious increases in defense spending. Most NATO counties barely have an army anymore. Broomstick Army reporting for duty. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/02/19/germanys-army-is-so-under-equipped-that-it-used-broomsticks-instead-of-machine-guns/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 There is an argument that if Europe plays the long game any Russian threat will disappear when the current Russian economic policies come home to roost. So just because there is a perceived gap at the moment does not mean Europe has to play the Arms race /spend game others are playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuri Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Fun times... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUCASWILLEN05 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 That only works if conventional detterrance works - as it did during the Cold War. During the 1980s ubnder Margaret Thtcher Britain re-armed and re-equipped the amed forces. That is when tanks like Challenger I came into service 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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