John Kettler Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 10 minutes of great close-in footage of firing tests, ammo loading (still haven't figured out where the AGS-17 ammo fits in), vehicle on the move in digital camo and apparent in-vehicle CCTV display of fair size on which crew appears to be doing a Shoot-Look-Shoot gunnery engagement. Don't know whether this is some special rig for State trials or standard fit. Regards, John Kettler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Hmmm... Them and the Ukrainian upgrade T72 look like good candidates for a future module. The Ukrainian National Guard equipment seems to be getting increasingly different from the army's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Ha, I could've used that film clip 4 days ago when I did art for the BMP-4's interior including a gunner's video screen much like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) The digital camo is Thai, as the original customer for these BTR-3Es was Thailand. AFAIK, they are equipped as the Thai army requested. Edited December 22, 2014 by akd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 BTR-4 is currently serving in the Iraqi army too. Which may explain the light green/tan camou scheme. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Yup, a bunch of the BTR-4Es taken into service came from the Iraqi order (possibly the vehicles rejected by Iraq). Edited December 23, 2014 by akd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Hah, I just searched the net for the BTR-4 story. It seems the BTR-4 vehicles had been inspected and approved by Iraq before shipment. But by the time the ship reached the Iraqi port Russia had apparently bribed the Iraqis into rejecting the shipment in hope of getting a BTR-82 contract out of them. The result, the Ukraine army is better equipped to fight off the Russians. Talk about the Russians shooting themselves in the foot! Edited December 23, 2014 by MikeyD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Hah, I just searched the net for the BTR-4 story. It seems the BTR-4 vehicles had been inspected and approved by Iraq before shipment. But by the time the ship reached the Iraqi port Russia had apparently bribed the Iraqis into rejecting the shipment in hope of getting a BTR-82 contract out of them. The result, the Ukraine army is better equipped to fight off the Russians. Talk about the Russians shooting themselves in the foot! Fun story, but the BTRs had visible cracks in their armor on delivery.http://www.janes.com/article/36447/ukraine-national-guard-to-receive-btr-4s Edited December 23, 2014 by akd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emccabe Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 here is some footage of the btr 4 and shows parts of the interior 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 The game BTR-4 does come with mounting lugs for slat armor but the armor isn't attached. Really, nobody's firing the oldstyle RPG-7 rounds in the game and that armor cage was mostly designed to defeat the fuse on an oldstyle RPG warhead - something the real-world Ukrainian 'insurgents' probably have in great quantity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 akd, Cracks in the BTRs' armor? Not necessarily true. Why? The article said the hulls and nothing about the armor. I haven't kept track, but BTR lower hulls used to be made of mild steel, not armor plate. Indeed, in Afghanistan the muj found that they could kill the driver by firing an AK-47 burst into the ordinary steel plate just forward of the lead tire. Therefore, it's entirely possible the lower hulls were cracked, not the armor. Love the camo scheme in the article. Those BTRs are practically invisible, even while practically on them. emccabe, Very nice footage. I like the primary lines of the AFV, but find the turret design not close to that design approach. The hammering of the 30 is very noticeable when compared to the ripping sound of the 14.5 KPVT. Would prefer neither to shoot at me. A feller could get hurt out there. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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