John Kettler Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 This is really juicy stuff and contains some surprises, such as an Effetto Pronto Speciale (sorry about the typo in the thread title; don't recall how to fix it) round for the 47mm. http://www.comandosupremo.com/forums/topic/5459-effetto-pronto-speciale/ Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amedeo Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Yes, the 47mm AT gun had EP, EPS and EPS Mod. 42 rounds. BTW, it might be worth noting that in summer 1943 the vanilla 47mm EP round was still in service. The dispatch No.364900 dated August 1943, sent by the Italian Army General Staff said: "47mm EP shells are still in distribution [...] they should be used as ordinary shells (i.e. as HE) instead as AT rounds." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Italian 47mm, 65mm and 75mm guns in CMFI have HEAT. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amedeo Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 That's correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 This is really juicy stuff and contains some surprises, such as an Effetto Pronto Speciale (sorry about the typo in the thread title; don't recall how to fix it) round for the 47mm. http://www.comandosupremo.com/forums/topic/5459-effetto-pronto-speciale/ What's the difference, John? We know you're not going to *buy* the damn game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Kettler still hasn't bought CMBN? C'mon John. Dive in. If you've gotten a thousand posts out of the Demo...imagine what you'll get out of the full version! Amadeo, check your Pm, please. Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 Childress, I have just about got my crash move completed, after which I'll have time to review my finances. I think I may allocate my deposit refund to getting the bundle. Mord, If the Demo generated 1000 posts, and I've played only two of the scenarios, then BFC better get ready for a server crash when I have the full game and begin floundering in earnest! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Childress, I have just about got my crash move completed, after which I'll have time to review my finances. I think I may allocate my deposit refund to getting the bundle. Wait, I just remembered. There will be a DEMO! O/T There's a rumor going around that, on a restaurant bet, you reconstructed 'Closing the Pocket' on a table napkin tile for tile. Please tell us it's not true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Childress, Yes, there will be a Demo. Ah, the joys that await! Now that you're doubtless shuddering, I'll take some of the pressure off by stating, formally and for the record, I have NEVER reconstructed "Closing the Pocket," in the manner described. 1-2-3 exhale! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 ...I have NEVER reconstructed "Closing the Pocket," in the manner described. So what manner did you use? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Michael Emrys, Since you're such the wag, I think you should be required to do the map--in Lego™. THAT should keep you out of mischief for a bit! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Childress, Yes, there will be a Demo. Ah, the joys that await! Now that you're doubtless shuddering, I'll take some of the pressure off by stating, formally and for the record, I have NEVER reconstructed "Closing the Pocket," in the manner described. 1-2-3 exhale! Regards, John Kettler No, no. You misconstrued the the statement, John. When I said: tell me it's not true, I meant that you were once 'in a restaurant'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Childress, Now, that's funny! Please be sure that Michael Emrys is diligent in his 3-D "Closing the Gap" map construction project. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Some intriguing new Effetto Pronto information, based on Eastern Front combat experience. Sometimes, a defective fuze can be a good thing! http://www.jedsite.info/ammunition-echo/echo/effetopronto_series/effettopronto-series.html There really was such a unit in the East, part of Italy's XXXV Corps. Armed with 105/32. http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=11995 Effetto Pronto in combat! Tigre's post of March 2, 2011. http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=32905 (Fair Use) "Serafimovich, July 30 to August 13, 1942. The Battle of the sunflowers. On July 30, 1942, began the joint efforts with the IR 578 (reinforced by the III. / AR 305) and the 6th Bersaglieri Regiment supported by four artillery groups I (100/17) and II/120 º ( 75/27); II/201 º (75/32) and LXII/30 (105/32) and anti-tank battery of 75/97/38 of 120 º was commissioned to begin offensive operations against the Soviet troops which occupied the bridgehead in the area of Serafimovich because it threatened the German southern flank. At 03:00 hours began the advance in order to attack the heights before Baskovski. At the same time the Soviet units, hoping to surprise the Italian division while it was deploying, launched a powerful attack with tanks T-34 and BT-reinforced with infantry. At the end of the action 14 out of 39 armored vehicles were lying on the ground. The tanks appeared around 13:30 hours at about 1000 meters from the anti-tank battery which started the shooting at 800 meters with 30 hollow-charge grenades and 30 high explosive, immobilizing the T-34 N º 78 and BT-7 No. 315 . Three cars went on to the attack and the battery fired another 20 hollow charge shells from about 300 meters, the T-34 N º 76 was immobilized with the second hit. The others two armored turned left and fled away; ten others grenades were fired from about 600 meters without result. Half an hour later suddenly emerged two T-34 and attacked the center of the battery with cannon and machine gun fire, the first was stopped some 8 feet away of piece 2 by a barrage of 10 hollow charge shells, one of them hit next to the gun turret, killing the entire crew. The second, T-34 No. 77, received 8 hollow charge grenades, one of them struck on the left side of the turret immobilizing it. Sources: Legione Croata Autotransportabile http://www.battlefront.co.nz/Article.asp?SectionID=2 IL BERSAGLIERE DEL 6° REGGIMENTO http://nuke.gmtmodellismo.it/Default.aspx LA CAVALLERIA ITALIANA IN RUSSIA: SCIABOLE CONTRO MITRAGLIATRICI http://www.storiain.net/arret/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/italianis ... artic6.asp http://groups.yahoo.com/group/italianisti/message/6248 La Milizia Volontaria Sicurezza Nazionale. La Campagna di Russia 1941-1943 (*) http://www.regioesercito.it/index.htm Die 305. Infanterie-Division. Hauck BERSAGLIERI SUL DON. Umberto Salvatores." Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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