Javaslinger Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 An opponent of mine has 2 HMG's in the 2nd Floor of the rear of two adjacent buildings. I maneuvered 2 squads to either side of it but none have LOS. Is this because the sides of the building have no apparent windows?? I just noticed that this particular building is the only one that seems to be this way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Right your teams cannot see the HMGs because there are no windows. Doesn't that seem right? Or were you just sharing your frustration of finding out you can flank them but cannot hit them. Two things you can do: 1) HE area fired at the second floor still might cause casualties to the HMG teams - if you have HE that is. 2) If you cannot see them they cannot see you - depending on what else is going on it might work to assault the building from the blind sides. Executing #2 while applying #1 would be even better:-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I maneuvered 2 squads to either side of it but none have LOS. Is this because the sides of the building have no apparent windows?? I just noticed that this particular building is the only one that seems to be this way. Try Barns. No windows necessary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreck Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 You can area fire into buildings regardless of windows. And they cannot area fire back out -- because they can't see out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javaslinger Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Right your teams cannot see the HMGs because there are no windows. Doesn't that seem right? Or were you just sharing your frustration of finding out you can flank them but cannot hit them. I guess I was just surprised. I have to give my opponent credit for noticing it and using it as a strong point. I'm going to get massacred trying to get a shot on it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 As someone else said, you can area fire into there, bullets go through walls like they aren't there... (though area fire into the second floor can have it's own problems: for a start, you have to be able to see the bottom floor) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 GreenAsJade The strength of wall versus area fire is something I have looked at a few times. As far as I can ascertain through scientific test, only the commercial buildings are at all porous to rifle-calibre fire. Under what circumstances do you find that walls offer no protection from small arms fire? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkWGriswold Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 You can area fire into buildings regardless of windows. And they cannot area fire back out -- because they can't see out.They most certainly can see and fire out once the building begins taking visible damage. So, you might get away with firing on them with no repercussions for a turn or two, but after that they will likely be able to return fire (assuming they live, which is unlikely). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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