Affentitten Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Navy frigate sent to Libya with four missiles KInd of like the whole "Every second man gets a rifle" thing. Even worse, the story says "the Royal Navy said it was unable to spare a warship to guard British waters for the whole of October after last year’s defence cuts". First they came for the Harriers.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinoza Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 You don't need Harriers if you can get this : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/super-soldiers-the-quest-for-the-ultimate-human-killing-machine-6263279.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Looks like a lot of countries are learning that war is a hobby that they can no longer afford. Let's hope that China and North Korea along with several other developing states figure out the same thing really soon. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Wasn't Nelson buried at sea? Regards KR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 No, but even if he had been I believe it is still possible to roll in the ocean. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 Appropriately for a sailor, Nelson was pickled in a cask of brandy and then in a tub of neat spirits tp preserve him for his return to England. It was pretty unknown at the time for naval casualties to be returned home, for obvious reasons. In fact during these times dead men were pitched off the side of the ship even in the middle of battle to prevent them becoming obstructions. They weren't even buried per se, but just dumped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak_43 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 *sigh*, a 2nd rate, ineffective navy strikes me as a singular waste of money, what's the phrase? Either go big or go home? "It takes three years to build a ship, it takes three centuries to build a tradition" (Admiral Cunnigham 1941) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Appropriately for a sailor, Nelson was pickled in a cask of brandy and then in a tub of neat spirits tp preserve him for his return to England. What a waste of booze. They should have toasted his memory as they dropped him over the side. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 What a waste of booze. They should have toasted his memory as they dropped him over the side. Michael You don't think they tipped the brandy away afterwards, do you? Not the Jack Tars of the RN. What do you think they toasted his immortal memory with? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 What a waste of booze. They should have toasted his memory as they dropped him over the side. Michael Waste? They drank it. I think it was called "Toasting the Admiral." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 If that's so, then I don't suppose you can accuse the RN of squeamishness. Frankly, I'd be a little hesitant to drink anything that has held a dead body—or even a live one, given the level of hygiene at the time. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Alcohol is a disinfectant! My uncle was in the RN at a time where rum was still a daily ration. If a man didn't want his ration, it was publicly tipped down the sink, to prevent hoarding and corruption by the QM. My uncle and his mate managed to get the drain grate off behind the store and tied a jam tin under the drain pipe to collect these emissions. Also not for the squeamish to drink stuff that's flowed down a few metres of Victorian era drainage! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 My uncle was in the RN at a time where rum was still a daily ration. If a man didn't want his ration, it was publicly tipped down the sink, to prevent hoarding and corruption by the QM. Huh. So was my grandfather, except in his case he was able to get a supplement to his pay in lieu of the rum ration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Huh. So was my grandfather, except in his case he was able to get a supplement to his pay in lieu of the rum ration. So it was purely sodomy and the lash for him then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 No, in his case it was collecting unearned prize money and shagging pretty American girls. He had a tough war 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Read a legal paper published here a couple of years ago that says technically the prize concept is still applicable to the RAN. ie. it has never been specifically un-legislated. Would be interesting if it came up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalins Organ Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 It seems prize money might have been abolished in the RN in 1946, and Salvage payments substituted (see 1946) - RN ships could apparently involved in salvage operations at least as late as 1964 and earn salvage for their crews. An article about Prize Money "Customs and Traditions of the Royal Navy" about 80% down this page says the decision to no longer award prize money after WW2 was supported by the dominions there is a question on this page which reads: 240. What do you know about Prize Money in the Australian Commonwealth? - but no answer is given that I can see!! Some RAAF crew applied to get prize money at the end of WW2, but the Govt decided that the amount given by the Brits to cover the whole Australian Armed forces would only give a paltry amount per person, so decided to keep it for: the "provision of a residence or residences in which the former male members of the RAAF who were in necessitous circumstances and, if the trust approved, the wives of those members, might be accommodated or supported". - RAAF prize money article According to wiki the RAF was added in 1945 for any action where it took part in the capture of a ship too. India had a "Naval and Aircraft prize Act 1971", New Zealand had the "Prize Act 1939" - no idea if they are still in force. The NZ one was jsut a copy of the British/Imperial one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Would the salvage prizes cover the situation of rescuing a hijacked ship from Somali pirates? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalins Organ Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Dunno - but it seems the question is being asked - eg see this paper - you an make a free account to get it I think. I notice that charging for S&R is included. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Affentitten, My dad and his buddies used to make "raisin jack" in an emptied out soda acid fire extinguisher during the Korean War while on the U.S.S. Passig, a Fleet distiller. Okay, water distiller. Had this been discovered, he'd never have made ET1 in four years. Electronics Technician, First Class is the technical equivalent of a PO1, Petty Officer, First Class. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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