Kinophile
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8 hours ago, The_Capt said:
Huh? The same legacy system that has kept Russia in this war far longer than they should have. There is nothing militarily wrong with the Soviet system for the time it was in. In fact a modernized Soviet system might just be better at modern warfare than the western one - massed precision, for example.
The Soviet military system demonstrated its full potential at the end of WW2 and frankly was highly effective until about the mid-80s. If modernized there is no proof it could not be highly effective again. We have a tendency to blame every failure on this “Soviet legacy” without really understanding what that military was, or was not. Problem is that the mass was “dumb” - and frankly I am not sure it was as dumb as we believed.
Problems in a medical system could be from many causes. The “Soviet legacy” has become an easy-button for western analysts to explain pretty much everything.
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP82-00039R000100110060-3.pdfThe Soviet medical system, for example, had its strengths and weaknesses but there was nothing inherently “wrong” with it (for example the Soviet Union had lower doctor to patient ratios than the US). It was designed for a different baseline, much like pretty much everything else in the Soviet system. The Soviet system was by-design aimed at supporting mass. So failures in the current UA system buckling under the weight of casualties cannot all be thrown at the feet of Soviet legacy, when that legacy was designed specifically not to buckle under massive casualties.
That's not entirely correct, to my mind, but probably my point/idea wasn't completed.
Its kept it in the war - but backed up by a brutally intolerant and uncaring political system - but even that monster is worried of mobilization.
Ukraines legacy Soviet system is not back stopped by such a system, and it's arguably vulnerable because it won't go to the same merciless extremes.
It's the wrong military formatting for a democracy, as it's fundamentals are predicated on an authoritarian system to enforce certain principles (Eg
Russia's military works for it because it's willing to do the crazy stuff to make that crazy military work. You can have a military system that works but it has to be backed up by a system that gives it what it needs. I'm not convinced that Ukrainian democracy can treat its people in the same fashion as the CCCP.
QuoteThe Soviet system had very high resilience, which the RA is demonstrating pretty much on a daily basis. It also could marshal and project mass like no one’s business.
I'm not convinced that the Soviet system did something fundamentally new in this respect - are these not traits and effects that Russia has demonstrated for generations? Eg the Russian Army surprising Imperial German with both the scale and speed of its WW1 mobilization - and later its ability to keep going despite horrific losses?
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7 hours ago, The_Capt said:
Huh? The same legacy system that has kept Russia in this war far longer than they should have. There is nothing militarily wrong with the Soviet system for the time it was in. In fact a modernized Soviet system might just be better at modern warfare than the western one - massed precision, for example.
The Soviet military system demonstrated its full potential at the end of WW2 and frankly was highly effective until about the mid-80s. If modernized there is no proof it could not be highly effective again. We have a tendency to blame every failure on this “Soviet legacy” without really understanding what that military was, or was not. The Soviet system had very high resilience, which the RA is demonstrating pretty much on a daily basis. It also could marshal and project mass like no one’s business. Problem is that the mass was “dumb” - and frankly I am not sure it was as dumb as we believed.
Problems in a medical system could be from many causes. The “Soviet legacy” has become an easy-button for western analysts to explain pretty much everything.
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP82-00039R000100110060-3.pdfThe Soviet medical system, for example, had its strengths and weaknesses but there was nothing inherently “wrong” with it (for example the Soviet Union had lower doctor to patient ratios than the US). It was designed for a different baseline, much like pretty much everything else in the Soviet system. The Soviet system was by-design aimed at supporting mass. So failures in the current UA system buckling under the weight of casualties cannot all be thrown at the feet of Soviet legacy, when that legacy was designed specifically not to buckle under massive casualties.
That's not entirely correct.
It kept in the war - backed up by a brutally intolerant and uncaring political system but which even that monster is worried of mobilization.
Ukraines legacy Soviet system is not back stopped by such a system, and it's arguably very vulnerable because it won't go to the same merciless extremes.
It's the wrong military formatting for a democracy, as it's fundamentals are predicated on an authoritarian system.
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39 minutes ago, Offshoot said:
It seems Ukraine still struggles under legacy Soviet systems in some areas. This article on the failures of their military medical system is a hard dose of reality - 'Abandon all hope:' Ukraine’s wounded warriors compare military medical system to the Inferno
From a certain level up.
I wonder if Zaluzhny was pushing for mobilization but Zelensky was feeling that the current system of training, and command and support was too Legacy Soviet? It would only waste the extra people, while also putting enormous strain on civilian support.
Not just in the actual mobilization but once casualties piled up would the current system be able to handle it? Ukraine is an actual democracy and could fail under the strain of a military medical system designed by an autocracy.
If 'all' Syrsky does this year is drastically reform his military, root & branch, then hecwill have set Ukraine up for true victory - the final destruction of its Soviet military legacy.
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It would take years to make these carcasses fly, let alone function.
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Jesus, really? I have my doubts. Like ALL the doubts. I certainly doubt NATO will look on this as a good idea. This feels like spam.
Ukrainian friends?
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This guy (RB&PG) has been continuously maddened by the lack of a Ukrainian campaign against RUS electrical and gas infrastructure. He has a good point.
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16 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said:
Good tactic to scare the Hell out of the locals, causing a ripple effect of spreading the chaos inward. Those people who do flee will stop for gas, food, flat tires, etc. and speak of their experiences to anybody that will listen, who will then spread it to others. No amount of clamping down on social media is going to keep this under wraps.
Obviously the impact of this raid is unknowable. On its own it has no chance of influencing anything. However, sometimes a swift kick to a rotten structure has pretty impressive results! So nothing should be ruled out, no matter how unlikely.
Steve
Unfortunate choice, in relation to invasions of Russia...
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... June? Not.. Great..
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58 minutes ago, Carolus said:
Russia starts to work like a modern military. Concerning if this becomes routine.
Ukraine does not have enough systems for consistent air denial for drones over the whole frontline and behind.
Unless something new appear (drone interceptors to counter drones), this will continue to be painful.
I'd argue it's already routine. This is the 4-5th video I've seen of deep strikes in the last month.
But, UKR typically doesn't sit and suffer like the Ivans.
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18 minutes ago, JonS said:
Kinda weird that someone "just happened" to be videoing that particular plane, just at the moment the engine fell off, just before it flew behind obscuring terrain?
Not sure of the timeline. It's much lower there so is it possible the engine burned through its support and fell? Puts this vid after the seen ones where its higher with flames. Engine matches.
Still, four engines down to 3 and it pancakes? Can't even level off?
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Il-76 Engine fell off, as cause?
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Where the heck is the RuAF...
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Novorossiysk in the crosshairs?
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47 minutes ago, Vanir Ausf B said:
Apropos the above, the new US weapons package will include ATACMs
The White House is expected to announce as soon as Tuesday that it will send a new package of weapons worth $300 million to Ukraine, and it will include a number of Army Tactical Missile Systems, according to U.S. officials with knowledge of the discussions.
The package will include a number of the Anti-Personnel/Anti-Materiel, or APAM, an older version of the long-range ATACMS, which travels 100 miles and carries warheads containing hundreds of cluster bomblets, according to one of the officials.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/white-house-aid-package-ukraine-00146487
Announced:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/12/politics/us-announces-weapons-package-ukraine/index.html
Quote"The supplemental is absolutely vital for our readiness, as well as Ukraine winning this conflict. This doesn’t change that at all. It is a relatively small package to give Ukraine, the minimum of what it needs for a short amount of time.”
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Information Is Beautiful website. Good graphic at the end that shows the significance of the currently delayed US support.
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Saying it was a decoy, "because I know".
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First time I've seen footage from a s400 crew during a HIMARS attack on it.
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12 minutes ago, JonS said:
Wikipedia suggests the Trent has the big number - 4 or 5 - about right. But whether it's 4 or 5 or 6 doesn't matter in some sense, since any of those numbers aren't enough to continuously cover two areas simultaneously.
OTOH, if it's still 5 or 6 then the Rooskis do still have some redundancy (assuming they leave monitoring the rest of their border to purely ground-based radar) before gaps will start appearing in the coverage over eastern Ukraine.
Even if they have the numbers, they don't seem to be flying them, currently.
Plus there's the little issue that two were destroyed in the air, at different locations, conditions, and the distances from frontline and possibly using different weapons.
That's a few too many variables to bet a third A-50 on...
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