Wiggum15

As if CMx2 has no other problems and BFC no other things to do (or things they should do) then adding child soldiers...pff.

Not that scout missions are already suicide in CMx2...

What ? "Battle Pack" = a paid update for the CMBN stock scenarios that needs all moduls inc. vehicle pack ?

I always thought that was a feature of CMBS ?

What playtesting ? The scenarios are not updated at all. And what miracle ? No matter of CMBN, CMFI or CMRT, it the same game essentially. So how should a engine "upgrade" with a few additional features be a miracle ?

You will have to buy two separate keys each 10$ (remember, scenarios are not updated and are probably not working correctly). Its insane how long it takes to get the new Repository working...maybe better just use dropbox and let people post links...

3.0 Upgrade is also separately... And looks like the "Battle Pack" will need CMBN 3.0 + All Modules (including vehicle pack)...

Why fantasy ? Just because i criticize the direction they are taking ? Do i ask for completely unrealistic improvements ?

...yeah, i mean its not that the engine upgrade is free for us so i would expect updated campaigns/scenarios. Looks like they dont care about that.

But with Upgrade 4.0 still using the outdated CMx2 engine i doubt we will see much improvement in key areas. Instead on focusing on keeping the old car driving through the addition of a new oil filter, a spoiler and new tires it would be time to move on and invest into a new car. If money or know-how is the problem...well there is kickstarter, i think we all would support you. Another thing i dont like is that we now have it Official, the bulge game will only include "minor" changes. No new trench/foxhole system. No significant gameplay enhancements, no fix for long standing technical issues. Sorry, iam disappointed ! (But thanks for the heads-up Steve)

I think the problem is that BFC has to take what the community offers. It has been said that all scenarios and campaigns are "donated" by some community members. Looks like BFC has no time/money to create them. So whats there option if the campaigns or scenarios are below average ? They still have to use them... I too think there are some really good scenarios in CMBS but then again there are some which feel just sluggish.

You always say "be nice and we can have a discussion"... But how "nice" can you be if you want to criticize something ? After every suggestion for change the first thing you hear is either: - no its fine you are irrational or - will never happen they are a small team Them you say "hey but the BFC marketing suggests this is a ->new<- game so whats ->new<- about it except textures and scenarios" Then it goes one downwards from there people are calling you aggresive aor wish you would die in russia (actually happened)... Im done with it, you cant criticize anything about the state of the engine or BFC's business model without getting your thread locked. And by the way i dont see all those threads criticizing CMx2 or BFC, they are non existent. Only "polite" bug reports and happiness. I dont know how much longer you can ride the CMx2 train without significant change, i just hope you dont wait till its to late. I was always a BFC and CM fan...

Spending money on hardware to "improve" your FPS in CM is like throwing money out of the window, at least if you pc is not 10 years old. Generally the only advice: Dont buy a ATI card and buy a CPU with high single thread power.

I have no problem with locking threads but i too dont like the "i have the last word" thing... I dont know, maybe the BFC forums are a place where everyone is happy. Take for example the DayZ forums (a game i play). There are hard discussions about which way the game should evolve and if the devs are fast enough fixing bugs and getting the game to Bata status. Here this is not possible.

Thansk for staying On-Topic womble ! But whats left after all womble ? A few new snow textures/tiles ? A few new units ? A modified CMBN TO&E ? A dozen Scenarios "donated" by the community ? 55 $ ?

No, no flame war. I just wanted to point out that some things can actually be included into a game. Like better tracer graphics or effects.

Yes. I use this mod but why has everything get modded into a 55$ game ? If it would be 10$ i would not care. As someone pointed out even the scenarios get donated to BFC. I know small team, no money, niche games. But i expect some quality from a 55$ game, especially when its no "proof of concept" or other rare stuff. CMx2 had 8 years to evolve into a quality product. Just look what Kieme(ITA) did with the distance ground textures, with his mod it looks 100 times better. BFC needs to step it up a bit. Or take the sounds, someone pointed out they use sounds from the CMx1 era.

Good point,they should get some love i bet they are the same since CMSF.

Oh, thats a good point. The effects of supression are not severe enough. Fire and movement rarely works. The code for surrendering needs to be changed too. Surrendering should occur if: - A whole formation with already low moral gets surrounded by enemy forces - Single soldiers (last survivors) are x time closer to enemy troops then to friendly ones. Another thing that needs to be added back is routing. It should be possible to route a defender and if he reaches the map edges hes counted as MIA ! No more fights to the death (95% of all CM games feel like that)

The question would be how would such "deep snow" look on the generally very flat CM terrain ?

Hi ! What kind of engine improvements do you expect from the Bulge game ? Do you wish that the performance and loading times get fixed ? On my list are these technical and engine improvements: - Overall Better Performance - Reduce the loading times dramatically - Get rid of all the old graphic glitches - The ability to save turns as "replays" - Fix the wind effect - Use road command - The ability for infantry to use differend spacings and formations - Better/reworked (not so ugly) trenches and foxholes (a must-have for bulge) - TacAI improvements for example better panic behavior - Finally fix the use of bridges - Real Deep snow terrain with a effect on tanks and vehicles - Reworked UI that makes use of modern FullHD 16/9 screens - Better Night combat effects and features like flares What do you think, what real new features and fixes to you expect from the Bulge game ? Oh, and why cant i start a poll anymore ?

Then why dont they hire new people with better skills ? They could start a kickstarter campaign for CMx3 and tell people they need the money for better skilled coders to do a proper well optimized engine. Or if they take a engine already avaiable they could use the money to hire people who are skilled in it.

So you did not want to have updated scenarios for the paid "engine upgrades" ? Another thing: The question why it takes BFC so much time even for very small things to add. For example the praised "random number of bullets in a mg burst". I can only explain this with the engine being a mess of code and it takes massive amount of time to implant every code change and more time to test it. Or the engine is already a rag rug, its like the old car you somehow keep running because you cant afford a new one. I would support a new car for BFC, go to kickstarter and i will send you money for a innovative CMx3 engine !

This topic turned more into a general critique of CM and BFC. Should i start a new topic ?

Ok, enough of this, back to topic. Since we are already talking BFC's business model... They choose to sell their so called "engine upgrades" and not to release them as a free patch/upgrade. Now, why did they not update the old scenarios/campaigns with the (big) new feature...AI triggers ? I think its kind of lazy from them and i was really disappointed to see they dont updated the scenarios. Yes it takes time, but again, they SELL this stuff and dont give it away for free ! And dont explain it with multiplayer compability, the old versions of the scenarios would still be abvaiable.