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Ah. Thanks!

Is she a reporter? The Finnish Prime Minister, Sanna Marin, is quite a looker and got tough on Putin. They are sending arms now I read. You are distracting me @LongLeftFlank! Actually trying to keep up with this thread is distraction enough.

Dang, Page 71! I’m still reading page 60! Lots to catch up on.

Don’t ammo dumps go up looking like a fireworks stand? A lot of explosions after the first explosion

Why so @Aragorn2002? I understand Sweden staying neutral, but why Finland?

MANPADS/Stingers at work:

Ran out of reactions today. +1 to what many of you are saying.

This is another view of the fighting. The car that got ran over had accidentally entered an ambush zone. I’ve read that the driver miraculously survived. The truck that got ambushed didn’t fair as well. Chaos of a war zone. It is fairly intense so please don’t watch if these kinds of battle scenes upset you.

This is not the venue for those types of inflammatory images. I’m sure old Warty wants nothing more than to disrupt this thread and get it shut down. @BFCElvis

Fighter shot down?

I watched this attack on a live feed. Or one just like it. It goes on and on and on. Terrifying.

I would like to thank all of you for being so civil and keeping this thread on track. I’m really proud of you guys. I really can’t believe this. It’s surreal. Putin has stayed one step ahead of the West up until today. I think that his actions today have overstepped his power to pull off. Although it looks like he is having many early successes, it’s going to turn into a quagmire for Russia. So many people are going to lose their lives for this megalomaniac. If NATO gets involved the loss of life will be shocking. A part of me, though, really wants NATO to come to the aide of Ukraine. Hopefully we can continue to arm and train the Ukrainians and make it too costly a war for Russia. Some of the fighting reminds me very much of CMBS. Instant death from out of nowhere.

I’ve never seen anything like that before. I wonder if those missiles were fired after they passed over if they would have been effective. That last helicopter looked like a KA attack helicopter.

GRAD/MLRS firing along border.

https://youtu.be/H7ZbVufqW3s Which city is this? Live feed of city skyline being hit by some kind of munitions. I guess it’s a hot war now.

Round 1 has to go to Putin I hate to say. I feel like we are in the calm before the storm. Russia is just doing pre-invasion SIGINT and OPINT. Slowly and methodically setting up Ukraine for an efficient dismembering invasion. Round 2 will go to Putin also if all we have are sanctions. I think the West needs to figure out a way to put some teeth in a response or you are just appeasing a bully. Some way to disrupt Russia’s plans. I can’t think of anything short of a military response. Can the west pull off a no fly zone using only stealth aircraft and drones? This would be a really good time for the USA to have an unmanned stealth fighter with long range Air-to-Air capability. I wonder if a black project already exists?

Agree, agree, agree, agree…. Wow! Dare I say we are all on pretty much the same page. If NATO was this united it would scare the heck out of Putin.

What are your thoughts on a no fly zone? Everyone knows sanctions don’t affect tryrants. Do we need a super quick Black Sea patch with new equipment updates? Or is Russian equipment up to date/close enough? Can mods make up the difference?

Nice to know @Combatintman

The forces amassing over there are getting ridiculous. Is this just sabre rattling by Russia or are they going to pull the trigger? https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44245/fully-armed-grim-reaper-f-15-eagles-deploy-to-poland-in-response-to-russian-military-build-up They kinda remind me of Robotech.

Next rev of Black Sea we gotta have this:

PRO: Enemy too afraid to shoot at the tank in case they hit the reactor. CON: The crew too afraid to drive it since the enemy might hit the reactor.

I was watching YouTube looking for Sherman engines and ran across this cool channel. The video above has a nice tank progression from the tiny early tanks to the mammoth King Tiger. I realized I've never heard these tanks before. The video below is a size comparison based on weight. It includes theoretical tanks. Maybe a few of these might have bailed out Germany a little bit. Maybe we should think in terms of what tanks may have allowed the Nazis to have called a truce at some point. Maybe bluff their way into it.

Wow. If you hadn't posted the pic I wouldn't have believed it. Those Brits...

Pro: Generate your own depleted uranium rounds. Con: Risk of starting a zombie apocalypse. So do you put the reactor in the front or rear?