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It appears your right, I couldn't get any bommbs off it either, it makes the sounds that it's making a bombing run, then nothing. It does make strafing runs with it's guns but the bombs seemed to be stuck in the racks. Just another of the many aircraft bugs, thats to bad because that would be a cool bad ass weapon in the game. The only other big bomb load german aircraft in the game I can think of and one that works also is the BF-110E, loaded with 2x1100lb and 4x110lb bombs. This aircraft flew throught out the war, on all fronts as far as I know.

Use the Henschels 129 B-2 dive bomber, it's equipped with 6-550lb bombs Here is a little info on the bomblets, it doesn't state the wieght of the sd-2 but the info I have is that it's actually 4.4lb's. A large array of bombs were used by the Luftwaffe. At the start of the war, the most common fragmentation bombs were the SD-10 (22 lbs.) and SD-50 (110 lbs.). As the war progressed, it became apparent that there was a need for an area-saturation fragmentation weapon, rather than the earlier models that more or less required an accurate drop. The SD-2 was procured and mass-produced, and at the start of the Russian campaign was in widespread use. Initially, the bomblets were hung individually on aircraft (the Bf-109 and Ju-87, for instance, could carry 96 of them), but time went on, a plywood dispenser container was created and used by many airframes. In the largest size used, these plywood containers could carry up to 248 of the SD-2 bomblets. A low-level profile was needed for accurate drops, which became increasingly difficult due to ground fire. Of more use on the front was the SD-1 bomblet, which at 2.2 lbs offered a larger spread for the same size dispenser. With the design of a popular new dispenser, the AB250, this bomb case could be more accurately dropped in more profiles and would release about 225 SD-1s. For attacking armor, however, both the SD-1 and 2 were ineffective. After discovering that conventional bombs often were ineffective at scoring hits on moving or dispersed armor, the Germans introduced the 8.8 lb SD-4HI cluster bomblet, which had a hollow charge warhead that could penetrate as much as five inches of armor. As many as 78 SD-4HIs were packed into 1,100 lb containers and were used heavily by Ju-87 Stukas, which had the means to accurately drop them in steep dives. Larger 550 lb hollow charge bombs were used against fortifications, and they allowed up to 10 ft of armor penetration against concrete fortifications. General purpose bombs tended to be either the SC-10 (22 lb), SC-50 (110 lb), or SC-250 (550 lb), sometimes fitted with long spikes on their nose to attack raillines and roads. Some of the spiked bombs could be dropped from as low as 160 ft AGL and proved useful in that role.

Hi Jack, Though I'm not Andrew, the answer to your question is that this AFV uses the same number set for cmak and cmbb, so yes it is compatible for cmbb. I have the ambush one on the ostfront and damn it looks sweet.

That stuff is great, those flakpanzers look like they belong in a high res, high color photograph. The spent shell cases laying around on the tank was a nice touch. :cool:

I done quite a rework on this battle David, if your interested I could send ya it when it's finished. Also if your ever interested in playing that Panfilovec again, even just 20 turns or so as the russians this time and I'll take the germans, just to show you how I hoped a person would go about the attack. What I was doing, was trying to get an idea how these battles played out in two player contest's. It's just so hard to get people to help ya out in playtesting a scenario. I certianly want to thank you for helping me with those other two scenarios anyway. I also want to thank Larry Thorne and Tooz for their help in the past.

I guess I didn't stop to think that this would be lost on most cm gamers, being that only about five people likely ever play anything other then german versus russian battles. But if ya ever played with the hungarians and those toldi AFV's you would understand better, it's no small feat for a Toldi to kill a T34 in a face to face match. I never seen that happen in all the time I've had cmbb, and I played a lot of axis minor battles. In the game there are three Toldi AFV versions, starting with the: Toldi 1 - it has a 20mm gun and is available from june - nov 1941, then again july/42 - march/43. Toldi IIa - it has a 40mm gun and is available from june/42 - feb/43 then again in march/44 - march/45. Toldi III - it also has a 40mm gun and is available april/44 - april/45 These are the three versions in the game, I have seen mention on the internet of a Toldi II also, but I don't know what is different between the II and IIa models. You can get the nimrod starting from 1942, this can be a rather deadly anti-tank device on all the russian light armor and even the early T34's, though it only takes one hit for them to die, but that's case with all those toldi's also. In regard to the nimrod, I like to set up a battle sometimes with nimrods versus su76's, it's a hoot.

Or maybe I should title the thread: now thats something ya don't see everyday. I was just finishing up a playtest of an updated version of my No Goulash For Ivan scenario. I just happened upon on a nose to nose, one on one between a T34-m40 and a Hungarian Toldi-IIa at 105 meters apart. The crazy thing was the Toldi won the fight, the T34 was manned with a regular experienced crew and the Toldi with a vet crew. It took about 4 hits to get the crew to bail the T34, I don't know if the T34 was able to get a shot off at the Toldi at all before I happened on the scarp, being that the Toldi is still alive, I'd guess it didn't. :eek:

Here is the final version of my whitewashed MikeyD soviet sherman-m4a2. I also had to fix that front slope trick Mike did with the summer version, it was just too glaring obvious with the lighter color. It's for certain that I'll post this stuff to cmmods whenever it's possible, I'll try and send a couple more over to zimorodok's site. But which ones I don't know, I have also just finished whitewashing MikeyD's grau and gelb PzIV-G's. If only I had a life, eh!

This is the gun that is on the Sd.Kfz. 250/11 HT also. The vehicle that was to become the Sd.Kfz. 250 leicher Schutzenpanzerwagen series had its beginning in the same operational requirement produced during the mid-30's that led to the Sd.Kfz. 251 series. It was intended that there would be both a 1-ton and 3-ton half-tracks to provide mobility for the infantry and other units operating with the Panzer divisions, and the 1-ton vehicle became the Sd.Kfz. 250. The Sd.Kfz. 250 was first produced by Demag AG of Wetter, in the Ruhr, although later other companies were also involved in its manufacture. The vehicle was based on the chassis of the Sd.Kfz. 10 Leichter Zugkraftwagen 1-ton vehile, but featured an armored hull with an open top to accommodate the crew of five men...plus the driver. The first examples were produced during 1939, and the Sd.Kfz. 250 first went into action during the May 1940 invasion of France. Compared to its larger counterpart, the Sd.Kfz. 251, the Sd.Kfz. 250 was built and used in a much smaller scale. The type's total production run was impressive enough (5,900 were built between 1942 and 1944) and by the time the war ended it was made into no less than 14 official variants (plus the usual crop of unofficial variants). From 1943 onwards production modifications were introduced to the hull shape to assist manufacturing, while at the same time cutting down on the amount of precious raw materials required. The armor thickness ranged from 6 to 14.5mm (0.24 to 0.57in). The Sd.Kfz. 250/11 variant. is an early body style and mounts the special "taper-bore" weapon, 2.8cm (1.1in) heavy anti-tank rifle sPzB 41. The German taper-bore weapons were an odd off-shoot from the main stream of anti-tank gun development. Although they were successful, they floundered for the simple reason that German war economy could not afford the raw materials required to produce great numbers of them. Three different taper-bore weapons were produced for service. All relied on what is commonly known as the Gerlich principle. In simple terms this involved the use of a small projectile core made from tungsten, a hard and very dense metal...ideal for punching its way through armor plate. In order to provide the tungsten core with the maximum punch the Gerlich system involved the use of guns with calibers that tapered downwards in size from the breech to the muzzle. The special projectiles involved the using flanged or "skirted" ammunition that allowed the flanges to fold back as the bore narrowed. This had the advantage of increasing the emergent velocity of the projectile, enabling it to travel farther and to hit the target harder. The principal was attractive to the German ordinance designers who adapted it for the anti-tank gun, but the principal had some disadvantages: to ensure the maximum power of the gun expensive and relatively rare tungsten had to be used for the projectile core, and the guns themselves were costly to produce.

I finally tracked down that elusive German Heavy 28mm anti-tank gun, and gave it a whitewash, actually I put a little camo on the summer gelb version also. Here is a little info on this gun also, I didn't realize that this is what that gun was. 2.8cm s.Pz.B41 This is a light anti-tank gun, it fires a 28mm projectile through a 20mm bore which results in good armor penetration from a fairly small weapon. The tapered bore creates an effect similar to a discarding sabot type armor piercing round. Due to the high cost and the need to use a number of scarce materials production of the sPzB41 was discontinued in 1943, it remained in use until the end of the war. Ammunition for the gun was always in short supply after 1943 but a small amount remained in production until the wars end as the small rounds made few demands on the limited tungsten supply. It is equipped with a light wheeled mount which includes a gun shield and is designed for high speed towing. It was also often deployed mounted on light vehicles and trucks. The principle of the taper bore gun was known since 1903, but the "heavy antitank rifle 41" (1). was the first to put it into practise. The result of the high muzzle velocity was a formidable antitank weapon for a weight that was only a fraction of the antitank weapon of the same power (2). Appearing in 1941, it was used successfully against the British Cruiser tanks in North Africa but was less successful against the Russian armor. It was also mounted on armored cars and half-tracks. paratroopers got a version on a lightened carriage. From 1942, the penury of tungsten in Germany (a indispensable component of its core ammuntion) condemned the weapon to confidentiality. (1) it had been called "rifle" for camouflage (2) it could penetrate 50% more armor than a 37mm Pak 36

Patboy, I don't want to overwhelm Zimorodok with mods to host, I could send him a couple more if he's willing to post them. If you want I could email you a few, I did a little work on your german whitewashed grey truck a few months ago, sorta toned down the greenish brightness some, would you like me to send this also. I'm looking forward to seeing your SU85, by the way I havn't seen that T26-m31 in the game yet, my download appeared to have a couple of corrupt files in it. But the bmps of the whitewash affect you did on the turret looks really good, I don't understand why you didn't do the whole tank that way. Those german WW grey AC's you did are going to be on my battlefields for a long time. It's kinda odd nobody has ever mentioned anything about my light ground snow mod.

I consider the KT as done, I was thinking of doing a different look for the road gear of the KV2 but that one above does give that dirty snow and slush look. There is also one of those damn phantom bmps's,I've been trying to track down, the one for the front inside fender. IT seems to run the full lenght of the inside of the tank, while it appears all the rest of the KV's just have a short piece. That sherman is this one I did that I posted a pic of in this thread. http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=30;t=003843;p=2 I have both MikeyD's summer lend-lease shermans done and his grey summer PzIV-F and F2.

It's actually fun to mod on yor artwork MikeyD, the detail is in such high res, making it very forgiving to a amateur like me. Also a lot of the textures can give some very neat finsihed results, especially with a whitewash effect. Here are a couple of winterizing attempts on Mikey's KingTiger and KV2. I was hoping to build on and enhance MikeyD's already grimy and dirty summer version into a winterized grimy dirty, half hearted whitewash attempt appearance.

Some of Gewehr's, Mp/StG 44's and captured rifles. Again may be old news too most. http://www.gewehr43.com/battle.html

I worked a little more this afternoon to see if there was anyway of keeping that look for the G-model. I was trying for a hasty camo job and an over aged, weathered appearance.

Patboy some credit in your readme file to Dey and Mschlstrt, would have been a little on the polite side.

I've been playing around with some camo effrcts for mikeyD's new gelb PZIV's From left to right is the F-2, F, and the G(late) on the right. I like the F2 look but the other two I'm not so sure of.

For anyone interested, Canadian site, http://www.tv.cbc.ca/national/pgminfo/ortona/ 29th Field Artillery WWII Gun Crew, http://members.tripod.com/~msg_fisher/irv-1.html A normandy site, with lots of first hand account stories, http://www.normandy1944.info/ Another canadian site, http://www.mapleleafup.org/ This site commemorates the fighting for Hill 112 in the July 1944 , http://www.hill112.com/ Battles for Italy 43-45, http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/wwii/salerno/sal-fm.htm War in the Desert: North Africa, http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/ETO/Africa/index.html Souther France, summer 44, http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/ETO/SFrance/index.html Northern France& Belgium, summer 44, http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/ETO/NFrance/index.html The Ardennes, Battle of the Bulge, http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/ETO/Bulge/index.html

Here is a few more links for anyone interested, Battle of kursk, http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/glantz2/glantz2.asp Battle for moscow,leningrad http://serpukhov.su/dima/war/eng/eindex.htm MILITARY IMPROVISATIONS, http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/wwii/milimprov/fm.htm Fighting the Russians in Winter, http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/Chew/CHEW.asp Soviet Night Operations in World War II, http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/Sasso/SASSO.asp German Defensive Doctrine on the Russian Front During World War II Prewar to March 1943, http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/Wray/wray.asp RKKA in World War II, http://www.rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/ The Battles of the Finland Winter War, http://www.winterwar.com/

Here is another one, I don't know how good it is but it seems very easy to use. http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4134.html

Not likely what your talking about but it may be one of the other prototypes mentioned here. http://www.panzerschreck.de/panzer/pzkpfw/pkpfw.html Here's a little info on this rat, http://www.masterliness.com/a/Ratte.tank.htm

Here is few more hopefully unknowns, Canadian site, http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/general/sub.cfm?source=history/secondwar/Italy An odd site with sounds, small video clips and pics, http://www.earthstation1.com/wwii.html German Airborne site, http://www.eagle19.freeserve.co.uk/ I think this site title says it all, http://www.axishistory.com

I don't think there is any doubt now that that turret in my first original post is the one the brits took and is now in the Bovington Tank Museum. But questions are in my mind now after looking around and reading some of the stuff at the links I found. What happened to these AFV's did they take the turrets off them at some point and time, and what about below are they another two turrets that where made or are they the above two turrets that where removed from the ausf-G's. And I guess the big question is the quote below, what did happen to the one sent to the United States. Also another interesting question is what happened to the wooden mock-up of the 88mm gunned panther II.

This is mostly based on US units in europe in wwII. A great place for scenario ideas. http://www.lonesentry.com/ I'm sure this is old news to the old timers here, but maybe new to a few at least.

See back into the future of german wwII designs. Maybe I should've called this thread DEY's believe it or not. http://forums.revora.net/index.php?s=8df1aee6eb4ceab0f8bb7b6402ddf0ed&showtopic=7658&pid=56738&st=0entry56738