Dillweed

My eyes are not trashcans for your dirty words.

Maybe, just maybe, you could just take the chill pill and shut up. If people are whining, well, get over it. It's not like your bickering and abuse is needed by anyone, the least by BFC. </font>

I think I agree with you. FYI: Generally we speak (type?) English here.

What disapoints me is all the whiney MFer who bitched and bitched for info/screens and now bitch and bitch about the timeframe and nations involved. Get over it. Its going to be f*cking good and even if it isn't complaining and hurling thinly veiled insults at the creators really isn't going to make them give up the work they've spent the last 2 years of thier lives on. Its a change of pace, and with seemingly good reason. All that being said I think we all need to come together here and be happy. Its a new CM game for God's sake! I think if you are intrested enough to be here you should at least give the demo a shot. If you don't care for it, don't buy it. Just look at it as a good way for BFC to iron out the bugs before the ETO game. Plus game #2 will actually have more features (I actually would have preferred that CMSF be 2nd, but I ain't complaining) In the end I realize this is a wargamer forum, none of us are strangers to conflict. I believe my final thoughts are spelled out in my name sig. | | | v

Know what this forum needs: more marxitsts. And I'm the man for the job! So let me start off: Down with the battlefront.com wing of the bull**** capitalist rip-off military industrial complex!

Agreed. I'd like to see CMx2 as a good overview of what John Keegan calls "The age of multi-shot weapons" with WW2 of course being critical for this. I myself am more intrested in #1, but as they say variety is the spice of life. I guess that goes for wargamers too.

Indeed, at the the risk of being political,If I were in command I would have broken out the real bullets long before they did. Edit: And that does go for the white "foragers" as well [ October 08, 2005, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: Dillweed ]

OK Thanks I could be wrong but I was always lead to believe helicopters bearing anti tank missiles where to be the GREAT leveler of the battlefield on the Fulda Gap to over come the advantage in numbers of tanks the Warsaw Pact had present in the 80's compared to the lack of tanks on the part of the NATO forces, thus implying all the "extra" Warsaw pact tanks would be held back (destroyed) by squadrons of attack helicopters firing precise anti-tank missiles against multiple targets. BUT I could be wrong maybe it does not actually work that way in reality -tom w </font>

Read the thread before you post. And I think by definition when they start being armed, they stop being civillians.

Yeah, and who was that guy that kept on predicting modern urban warfare... He seems like a sharp fellow, I just can't remember his name.

Quit bitching about our bitching and keep your opinions to yourself. It's not up to you to decide what I like and what I don't like. :mad: CM is good because it is CM. This, however, is a whole different potato, on so many levels and mostly in a bad way. Not only the setting, but also forces involved, scope and scale. </font>

Hell yeah, and welcome! I trust Steve et al, I think they've earned it. I guess thats what it comes down to.

Quit yer bitchin, its gonna be good. Think of it this way, CMx1 was good becasue of Steve and the rest of the BFC team. Not beacsue of the setting. There have been a whole lot of bad WW2 games, but BFC made a good one. I imagine there talents do not only cover simulating combat ranging from 41-45. Just remember who we are talking about here. They have proved themselves very compatent in the past. I will assume they still are unless given CONCRETE (ie a bad game on my hard drive) evidence indicating otherwise.

IEDs? Hot damn, looks like its gonna be good. Hopefully you guys won't catch too much flak from GW2 vets, I'd expect at least some tho.

I've been telling you guys for weeks: team based combat =! WW2 I love it, and anyone who doesn't can shove it

So we can assume that it will be focused on urban ops? Also to what extent does you guys have to CYA? Was the choice to have a more complexr political situation than "Yeah, we invade Syria" a purely story based choice or was it to not piss anyone off. I remember the DPRK getting a bug up its collective ass about the new ghost recon game. [ October 08, 2005, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: Dillweed ]

If they could before, probably not now.

Looks like I was wrong, should have gone with my first instinct and not over examined.

Nice styker. No questions for me, but thank you. You've made me the happiest boy in the whole world. Now that we can all stop bitching for timeframe/screens we can start the next round. Geeze we've been waiting like 6 mins, and no demo!

Modern Urban warfare, my first choice. Thanks guys! PS Looks like I was right, kinda

Lots of fresh meat, I see. Welcome!

Tango Mike India, there buddy. Can we get a confirmation from steve or another BFC staff member that this is just forum maitenence or some other non event? It would shut these bozos up. Of course, if we can't...

According to the all seeing all knowing Wikipedia th e Javelin costs about $100k per shot.

Seems as if we always hear this, and yet...

Joint manouevers aside, thats hardly the fist time US airborne troops have learned why doing something is a really bad idea the hard way.