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i hate people who feel themselves better than the rest.. roqf77 u a moderator?? no then be quiet.. and those yanks always feeling like 'we have the best place to live, why coz we americans rule, we i we i we i we i... omg

where can we download it seamonkey?

dunno if i used to post it, but as im back home for a while i have time to play some tcp games icq 250-243-603

e kuniworth, if pple want to talk about a game thats , even, 20yrs old, why should that be a problem.. SC is outdated but still a nice game..not worth the many hours of play to become very strong maybe, but still a good game

@Liam: usa do not differ from any european state in their treatment of natives, you have a long history of bloody suppression of your native americans too. No wonder! Half America is in fact european. Thats what we can't stand, that attitude of knowing it all better, and if 'theyr not with us theyr against us' , and rambo just says it clearly i prefer that, you just keep bashing belgium and europe, thereby proving my point. We have made a lot of mistakes in Africa, but we have also brought infrastructure to their lands, and in many parts ways to rise their crop production, you really think you are doing so well in iraq e, you are just rising their level of anger against you, because your government does not listen to the iraqi population. And when elections will be organised we will see shiites in power...it will become a religious dictature like iran...sorry but i prefer saddam if i have to choose.@rossevelt: didnt know either, where r u from, im in ghent

Bill Gates giving his fortune away? lol i want to see that first, im pretty sure a lot of euro billionaires do the same, what u think, being american means being superior, EUROPE is nr 1 in aid of the poorer, we have social security here u know, we do not let our poor starve in some corners of the cities..

@Liam: i guess you wanted to answer to roosevelt45, coz i never mentioned any adoration of our colonial past. I too am from Belgium and i know my history. Our country has never had any other colonial ambitions other than congo, and our king Leopold II took it for himself first. He was like a dictator over there and rude laws were applied. Or no laws. It is a dark side in our history, but compared to the thousands of bad sides in US foreign policies, we are great.

@desert dave: glad your there man! i know a lot of americans are normal people too

well you didnt do bad either on 'european bashing'. Fact is you should come here and learn to appreciate other places than your own country. Knowledge is the first step to evolution.

hi back! @Liam: many belgians have fought in the resistance against nazi occupation, like my granpa, only a minority worked together with the germans. I bet you many coalition soldiers were involved in several rapes too, soldiers are human beings, some of them are crap. I apologize for my little country not to have an army big enough to get involved in 'LIBERATION' wars all over the world, preaching democracy and the american way of life to those poor oppressed iraqi pple. You americans on the battlefront forum are all hardcore republicans, its really strange: everything is black or white in your country, i mean look to rambo, 'your with us or your against us' well such attitude is like begging for troubles. NOT ALL AMERICANS R LIKE THAT a friend of mine studies in chicago, just got back with a girlfriend, against bush policies, pro-democrats, she was really against the war in iraq, someone with brains: her brother is in Iraq, a us soldier, he is extremely pissed on Bush, and i understand that. And do not underestimate europe. What do you think we are the world second economy, very close to yours. Our total militaries are 1/4 of yours. There are plans for a european army. About being grateful... i am, what do you have to do about it? we live now, do you think my family was involved in nazi murders? its about nations man, and france and belgium, and germany, disagreed with a distant war, its not about pple having debts, i do not owe you anything. My country ows you its respect for your help, that does not mean following blindly. Of course when we look further, there are a lot of reasons to believe the us took a loooooooong time to enrich themselves before coming to our help (afraid of the communist comeback), but so what, they came to help us. But the US of now are not the same of before. Your country is now involved in illegal warfare, taking advantage of its nr1 position to further gaining power, and wealth. But pple over there are still the same, and you know, europeans and americans do not differ much. The war in iraq is just worsening the whole situation, when you face terrorism, you have to act against the real terrorists, not telling lies to your people and using the bombing attacks as excuse to invade a sovereign country. 9-11 and saddam: LINK NOT EXISTING ok. So now the us is begging for support from the 'unwilling', well u know....not going to happen. Im proud of my government stance against that stupid war, i dont get it: bush wants a rise of terrorism, or he is very greedy, or he is very stupid. Iraq has become the playground for foreign fighters of islam. And the oppressed iraqi population will keep rallying the rebels, rebellion mixed with islamic extremism, the whole situation is just chaotic. By further supporting israel the usa are just worsening their image towards the arabic public opinion. Face it: you can't play the sherif there easily, and you didnt expect the rebellion to be so fierce. @rambo: stop seeing europe as one group of people that are mostly nazis. That means you do not understand europe , nor what it stands for. If you are a true christian, you should understand war is never a good way to handle. But you do not seem to understand the Word, as the bible is a way of better understanding the world, and bringing values to people. You do not seem to have got the values so far. Religion is more than going to the church to show your new suit to your fellow'christians'. Europe is a very beautiful, diverse place, we have very strong cultural identities, its more difficult to understand than the us. And for sure it has its bad points too, but maybe the us gov should listen more to the past and to its (ex?)-allies, they knew the war closely, and it was, mostly, a european mistake. We try to learn from the past.

american culture ahahahahahaha

sorry condor, zapatero is president indeed. I was misleaded by the fact that spain has a king, monarchies do not have presidents, they have kings or queens. But the term is 'president of the government', thats about the same as a prime minister... Fact is Aznar has been in charge for 8 years and at the end spain began to look like the old franco period... He surely didnt understand 'freedom of speech'.

LOL Liam wrote sth and i couldnt let that be without answering, should have started a new thread sry. @Condor: Spain has no president, they have a prime minister, Zapatero, the man just listens to his people, as 70-80% of spain was against the war. Aznar and his government have tried to mislead their people, by telling that 11-03 attacks were fom the E.T.A, even if they knew they couldnt know yet. The Partido Popular tried to manipulate its pple,hoping to reverse the process and win the elections, not the socialists. @Rambo: its not true, we have felt the same pain and anger when 09-11 occured, but maybe in Europe we still see things from a distance, that makes us more able to see through things i think, If you believe marching into iraq was part of the war against terror then you are misleaded. Iraq is another subject, but now of course it has become the fighting ground for terrorists; for their jihad, since arabic muslim land is 'soiled'. So indeed the war in iraq had its good sides: 1)eliminating saddam hussein, 2)securing the oil sources, 3)installing democracy (we will see if that will work) and 4) making a lot of terrorists come over there, its easier to battle them at one place than everywhere in the world... BUT i hope the actions against the muslim world will not lead to total radicalisation of alrdy seriously radicalized religions.

My view of what the West has to undertake to erase terrorism: we have to align our intelligence agencies, so that US and Europe can possibly react alltogether and simultanously to terrorist threats. We have to pull out from Iraq and other muslim countries to calm down the hatred muslims have against us. We have to punish Israel for their crimes against the Palestines, and punish the palestines for their crimes against the Jews. Give Palestinians a state and one of the most important problems of the region will be solved. We have to actively help the local governments with funds and techs so that they can wage their wars alone, terrorism is for the governments there the greatest threat. Now we have involved ourselves with this crap and we must get rid of it. Why does my country, Belgium, have less risks from terrorism than Italy or GB? coz we have stayed out.

@Jon_j_rambo: 1)payback for 9-11: i think this has been done, afghanistan has been attacked and the supporters of Bin Laden, the Taliban, have been thrown out. But Bin Laden himself? Never found, so the real bad guy is still free. A beautiful image of how good the US method is working. 2)Saddam is a piece of crap, so are many others...To be honest i do not value president Bush much higher. How can such a stupid person become leader of the greatest country of the world, i do not get that. Ok,hes no genocider. 3)His sons too, but it does not give you the reason for going into war, there are many other dictators, which the usa work with, like uzbekistan. Pure Hypocrisy. 4)Iraq had WMD, after first gulf war their only weapons left were old scuds, that they dismantled or tried to shoot at Israel. 5)Europeans do not hate Jews, but European politics do not agree with Israels way of dealing with things. Israel is a dangerous country that had to be stopped. Jews in Europe can live freely, antisemite acts must be punished.6)Acting like US act now will only improve the chance of getting such a Hitler soon, US behaviour is pissing the rest of the world off, what will lead to more radicalisation. Like Avatar says, we need to let pple develop their own ideas, thats the way it works, not a behaviour of 'lets go there and tell them how to live'. Do you think they will like you more after that? Be realistic, they will hate you for that, you see it now, the whole muslim world hates the States. Rambo, what did work for Germany will not work for the Mid-east. Germans are europeans, christians. They just had agreed in a wrong ideology. '& showed you guys how to live' mmmmm you think i like your way of living? u think i like MC DOnalds or all that crap. But i will not forget the US have helped us twice (France helped you also in the time, you would never have been independant from GB), when the USA will be in REAL danger, Europe will help with all its got. For now the US are looking for troubles. You are the sole superpower, but no nation can control the entire world, too many different religions, different cultures, it won't work. We tried it we failed, you ll try it you will fail.

but really, dont you all think it is really not honest from your government to have lied about the reasons of war? to have used your fear of WMD to wage a war?

i appreciate your honesty, u just say it like it is: lets go there and secure the oil. Imperialistic behaviour has led to the two great wars, dont forget that.

i think the future of that part of the world should have been taken into account a while ago, before the invasion. I understand the muslim view, they are being attacked since a while by wester powers now. Should i have been a muslim, i should have fought i think, for what they think is wrong, cant blame those pple. Blame their leaders. But now they are suffering.

i understand these things. But you have to balance the pros and contra of that war. Iraq will be the last one possible. The public opinion in the us will likely vote for a change, europe will stay out of it, russia will get mad, china also , the whole islamic world...that will be a nice intro for a long war. But answer me pple, do you want your army to stay there now, and occupy the rest of the mideast, what do you want for future for that region?

ahahaha sombra average

I am pro- a united european defence strategy, so we can take care of our problems ourselves, indeed the yugoslavian war was a fiasco. But the usa are very dubious on that point, so i think france, belgium and germany have to create the first european army, the others will have to join. Working together with the US. But then US should re-learn to listen to allies on some points. You do not have the right to go there and tell these pple how to live. What do you want? Occupation of the Middle-East? After going there and burning it all, what do you want to do?

the attack on iraq, your point of view, as for 50% of the usa i think just keeps giving me the feeling the world is not getting safer. We indeed need more unity for covert ops operations, american intelligence working with europeans

It could become a world war: usa oversee overstretch+bad economy , so that china takes her time to attack taiwan, while russia starts nuking around, dont forget Putin is completely reorganising the russian command, and army. In his favour, he can now be elected an infinite number of times, 70% of the parliament behind him. This is possible if the us keep waging preventive wars.

Nice. Keep attacking around and you will see the world filled of hatred towards the usa more and more. Instead of trying to make the mideast pple liking the usa, the current war only makes them hate you. Do you want more 9-11 attacks? Im sure my spanish friends dont want a new 3-11. Their government neither.