Nidan1

Very nice....

What does that come to in real temperature numbers? Not that sissy Euro Celsius calculation, but perhaps a Fahrenheit or Kelvin reading? Come back again in May, and let us know what it is then. Send us some pics of kangaroos with icicles hanging off their pouches, or aborigines on walkabout with snowshoes, now that would be winter.

You should be aware, by now, of the downside of your continued liasons with little kids. While dealing with adults may be more difficult for you, they usually are not blowing their noses on their sleeves or sneezing directly into your face...well, not the adults I know! anyway....I forgot you spend time with Berli and dalem

Guess what you Aussie blockheads? Winter is coming....

Spot on! The little muffler on the left side of the rear hull is not on the J model, because they replaced the two stroke gas engine for the turret with a two speed hand crank version.

While we are waiting for Andrew's great Mod...how about a little quiz. What is the only sure fire way of identifying a MKIV as a J model and not an H or a G? Hint...you have to look at it from the rear.

I have yet to see a rendition or a photo of a PzKpfWIV either G,H or J model that has an ambush pattern applied. The Ausfuhrung J model appeared in March of 1944, it being the last upgrade to the MKIV and produced to the end of the war, even photos of fairly new J models show various forms of the tri-color pattern of overall dark yellow with red brown and green patterns, either sprayed or brushed on.

Do you really think the time of day has anything to do with it?

Panzer Colors Vol II, has a Panzer Lehr MkIV rendition that is very similar to the one on the website, its the same tank number actually, from the right side though If you stick to dunkelgelb with mottled green or brown or both on your mods you should be OK. The Squadron/Signal book "PzKWIV in Action" Shows similar dunkelgelb with either brown or green mottled camoflage or combinations of all three, on both the Eastern and Western fronts, From late 1943 till the end. [ March 15, 2005, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: Nidan1 ]

I am in possesion of all three volumes of "Panzer Colors", but I believe mine were published by "Squadron/Signal Publications", back in the late '70s, which could be a subsidiary of Culver. I will have to wait until I return home today to check for you. Not sure if there are Panzer Lehr specific renditions. From what I recall from my model making days, a lot of vehicles were field painted with oversprays or brushed on shades of brown and green, either mottled patterns of various striped patterns to break up the outline. IIRC the ambush scheme was unique to the west and put mainly on Panthers, Tiger VI's and Hetzers or StuGs, and I am pretty sure that scheme was applied in a controlled setting due to the complexity of it. Anyway, enough long windedness, if you dont get the info you need today, I will check it out for you tonight.

They belonged to armoured regiments, in armoured divisions. Unlike the US Army, Infantry Divisions did not have organic tanks. Some infantry units may have had Browning MGs on vehicles, but I don't think there was any official chain of supply of Browning ammo in either .30 or .50 within an infantry division. </font>

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Are you sure about this, Nidan? I remember how excited you were when he followed you home and I let you keep him, but it's been ages and ages and he's still not house broken, he chews up slippers at an alarming rate and I think he knocked up* the gerbil. We can't keep blaming it on the exuberance of youth. I think he may be more than a little s.l.o.w., if you know what I mean. * For our Brit friends, this does not mean "wake up". It's the other one. </font>

But did he actually try, or was he bluffing as some have suggested? I'm inclined to believe the latter. </font>

On the 11th Armored Division front on the opening of Operation Goodwood, 1000 Lancasters and nearly as many B-17s pounded the German front from 1500 meters in front of the advancing British across the German positions and into their rear area. 1000 and 500 lb bombs were used by the RAF and smaller fragmentation bombs were used by the AAF to prevent cratering. As units of the 3RTR advanced a rolling artillery barrage followed the bombers and lead the way for the British tankers. The following is taken from a Pen and Sword book on Operation Goodwood. Bill Close a British tanker remarked: "We rolled on through boiling clouds of dirt and fumes, 38 Shermans doing their best to keep up with the rollng curtain of fire. I could vaguely see tanks on either side of me picking their way through the ever-increasing number of bigger and bigger bomb craters.... Dazed and shaken figures rose from the uncut corn, and attempted to give themselves up to the leading tanks. When I waved them to the rear, they stumbled off with their hands over their ears. Other Germans squatted in their foxholes staring stupidly, completely demoralized as we passed. Our infantry would collect them, or so we hoped. Sure enough, we could see David Stileman's carriers rounding them up."

You would probably also have to include shells fired from ships in the channel. German positions were still in range of naval gunfire probably into mid-July.

Not exactly an accurate asessment for several reasons, but since this is not the topic of this particular thread, I wont belabor the issue here. Suffice it for me to say that Giap tried to duplicate the conditions of Dien Bien Phu at Khe Sanh, but failed under the weight of superior firepower that was deployed by the Americans.

Wartgamer, a good analogy that might prove your point is the situation that took place in Khe Sanh in late 1967, early 1968. The North Vietnamese, under the leadership of Giap, the architect of DBP, attempted to create the same situation for the US Marines at the combat base. Air mobility and tactical bombing, including B-52s, negated the same circumstances that doomed the French in 1954. Also the inability of the NVA to fully control the high points, hills 881, 861 for example, prevented them from selectively targeting strong points in preparation for ground assaults. They were successful in digging trench lines up to a few meters from the forward positions, but were never able to concentrate their infantry in sufficient numbers because they were pounded from the air and from artillery. Advances in technology and unlimited ammunition saved the Marines from a similar fate.

I hereby declare that the Squire called Stikkypixie , having fulfilled all the requirements, performed endless tasks of minutiae, having annoyed several of the Olde Ones , etc. etc. be raised to the status of Knighthood in the MBT. So let it be written....so let it be done. [ March 10, 2005, 05:59 AM: Message edited by: Nidan1 ]

Emrys, Missouri is the "show me" state. More than happy to be of assistance.......

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Cutting and pasteing seems to be an insurmountable task for you. You were actually a leader of men in an Armored Division?

Nuclear Attack Submarine?

Ooh, ooh, guessing games from SSNs, I just love them.... Perhaps you should just "die" then..... [ March 07, 2005, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: Nidan1 ]