panzermartin

Do you think that there is a percentage of Ukrainians (not LNR, DPR) that avoid conscription because they don't want to participate in war with Russia out of some kind of connection or sympathy with them. (not necessarily political) Though I understand any sympathy after two years of torture and death is non existent. I can't grasp how tragic this war of extinction is, between these once closely related countries. Sometimes I wonder, can we all turn out like these, towards our neighbours, we now chat and laugh with, given the circumstances.

Sure makes sense Russia is more prone to these kind of attacks now, all busy with the war effort. But ISIS has been an obscure organization that at some point of its life even received training and funding and even western weapons from various sides. They nearly defeated Russian backed Assad. So yes, they can be manipulated to serve supreme forces in their powerplay like other terror groups in the past. Used and then discarded. There are also probably more players than NATO/Ukraine that want to see Russia dragged in a second front. And as you say, we really have no clue what ISIS stands for anymore. It could be a random office in some desert that "buys" terror attacks just to keep the brand/funding going. That doesn't make this attack "more Isis" but more of a 3rd party operation. The fact that these guys got so easily arrested and made no final stand makes them look less like the usual jihadist radicals. No Allah akbar no fight till death. Did this for 5k? Weird. Unless this arrest is all staged of course, and the real shooters are heading for some Stan now.

I really don't get ISIS, (if this attack is ISIS). They didn't make a sound with the Gaza bloodshed , but they now "fight for Islam" against russian rockers, in timing that makes no sense whatsoever from their perspective but makes absolute sense in the Ukrainian matter.

I'm not saying Putin did this. I don't believe it. A massive drone attack in live TV on some football field crowd would look more impressive than this "grey" random attack. Could be some rogue anti-russian team , could be pro UKR chechens , who knows. I don't think this is ISIS. I think by now the islamic state has been reduced to a teenager in a cave with a PC that sends announcments trying to claim the paternity of random attacks. Well not that much maybe, but I don't see why they would go that far after years of silence and even take sides and get involved in a West vs Russia war, because that's how it looks now. Whoever was, the intention was to put more fire under the cauldron. The timing was right. Maybe FSB had some hints but didnt bother much as you say... The consequences of the attack will be evident in the coming weeks/months. Already Putin is blaming Ukraine on national broadcast...

I dont think that the refinery attacks are on par with this shocking attack that has definetely terrified muscovites, even on the zombier side. Moscow people were the less involved and interested in this war (and the most opposed to this war). This could accelerate a lot of changes in the security/military apparatus and mobilization. Now it was the worst time, because they recently changed status from spezial militarski operationski to great patriotic war. And because all signs are that war is getting broader with Macron announcing intention to send troops etc which is a new major shift in the Western involvment.

How about the other way. "Look we have bravely fought them and flattened them in the battlefield and now they are only capable of cowardly sneaky terror attacks massacring undefended youth. These are the acts of the desperate and the defeated " (Buuut if we mobilize some more of you, the country will be a safe invincible fort ) .

All alive and well? I wonder where that ISIS announcement came from. This doesn't look like suicidal ISIS at all.

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Be honest, who is going to play CM: WDD Where Drones Dare in 2035. It will make Star Wars look dated. Just let the Boomer inside you speak freely, music was better back then, vinyl was better, air and sea were cleaner, warfare was forgiving. I tihink I'm going to launch CM FB . I'm enjoying the last good things of my era.

I'm just not convinced that the HMG that was filming got the kill. Looks almost 90, looks a bit far. Maybe some other AA on the other side, not possible to tell from the video. Also, could this be a shahed again?

Sorry no way this was from the 0.50. It's equivalent to the Iraqi with a 1909 rifle posing against a down Apache.

I hate where this is heading. Basically this tech can produce never ending wars not dependent on available personnel, even autonomous AI wars, constant terror attacks deep behind lines and other ugliness. I hope someone comes out with a Uber weapon that defeats all frequencies used for drones and these people go out of business. You can't even write a proper anti war novel, movie or song with these little creatures. Oh maybe Slayer can think of something. "Droone warfaaare"

At some point I expect ballistic missiles to somehow drop their warhead with gliding kit (Ala Glide bombs) and the remaining body with rocket engine to act as a decoy for AA. Patriots have adjusted perfectly to the ballistic threat.

So, the Germans have in fact given more % to Ukraine than US and have been hurt the most economically with Nord stream shut down etc. Let's keep this in mind in the next round of German bashing.

What a boom. I hope the crews were aware they had been located and targeted and had abandoned the vehicles. Those iskanders are probably the best ground to ground weapon Russia has. I remember earlier in the war they delivered accurate and deadly strikes like the one in the Kiev Mall where Grads were hiding. They are indeed getting better at hunting down big pricey western assets. That patriot system could have had a few Su 34 kill rings painted already. But it took them remarkably long for a country they know every inch of, are scanning everyday, have agents inside and it's next to their borders.

I can see a hypothetical scenario in CM:WW3, where your first mission in a campaign is to assault a fortified forward position defended only by mines, air drones, AI bunkers and land drones. I think in the final attack you will still need human infantry.

If I were russian I would invest in fast, small patrol tank/boats with shilka quad 23mm turrets that would hunt in front of the big ships. Highly agile that would be impossible to hit with naval drones. For equipment, maybe radar, maybe night vision, definetly a big spotlight. An embarrassment for the BSF that technology a little better than Somali pirate boats can penetrate their defenses and get them to the bottom.

Russians are welcoming our PM One hit got 150-200m close.

I remembered the airport attack incident, maybe there are now lancets with greater range? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/video-russian-lancet-drone-range-hits-ukrainian-mig-29-jet-2023-9%3famp

Only 40k? I had never checked but I thought that it had at least 100+

Still a mystery that no Lancet caught a Himars off guard and the first kill is from a GMLRS. (Although I recall unconfirmed russian claims of destroyed himars in the past )

You are hoping that the younger ones of your opponent don't have any desire for war either. No more wars. Problem solved. If suddenly no one would enlist, then all wars could stop. Could be a reality after this war ends. But how will it end? The next option is war from distance, AI, robots, drones, guided by 16yr olds boys and girls but no human is allowed on the battlefield. Russia is in better shape because : - has survived the humiliating defeats of the first year. -It now has the momentum in the front lines and is gaining ground steadily. - defeated the long awaited Ukrainian counter offensive. -defeated (or maybe crushed) the hype around western wunderwaffen. -At last found a successful cheap way to employ the air force in support of ground operations. - Vastly improved drone fleet capabilities and operational efficiency. -has no conflicting internal voices anymore. No Prigozyn, no Navalny, no opposition, no crazy ultra nationalists. Just a dull grey homogenous military state. -caused serious cracks and doubt among Ukrainians and westerners if victory is possible. -western funding is now more insecure than ever. - has overcome sanctions and tech and production shortcomings. - has the upper hand in manpower and widening the gap while Ukraine is facing serious issues with mobilization. That doesn't mean it's in great shape of course. But in most ways it has adapted and wages war better than Feb 2022.

To be fair, I put in a certain perspective. That, if there is no collective desire to defend Ukraine *among the population of Ukraine, then there is no point in continuing this war and killing the willing and the bravest in a defensive retreat. These people have been the most heroic lot I have witnessed in my post 70s life. They can of course keep fighting until the end if that's their desire. But as an outsider peace seems like better option than a war until the very end. Peace would unfortunately mean Crimea and Donbas to Russians officially. For now. The fact they are already russian and probably not possible to retake, makes things less painful I guess. But what if peace now can prepare Ukraine better for the future? In a couple years time. With a proper airforce, with enough artillery shells, with even western presence in their land? Not to gear for another war but to show that they are impossible now to overcome. And at the same time a phyrric victory of an isolated Russia would mean that they are not able to keep up or prepare for second war. Then they slowly disintegrate, with the old people and the old soviet memories that somehow brought us here. With a Soviet flag of victory in the ruins of Bakhmut and the Black Sea fleet locked in Port and rusting. And a new generation of more open minded people that are fed up with a decaying country will eventually bring the change and bridge the two countries that speak the same words again. Actually war is what keeps Russia running at the moment. The idea that they are fighting the big collective West and the Slavic traitors feeds their struggle against daily misery. If this war ends what will keep them together? Kinda like pedaling and balancing a war bicycle. They are definetly in better shape than two years ago,yes can you believe this? As for demanding more from Ukrainians, It's somewhat cynical of us to expect them to carry the burden and defend all "western values" that they know little of, while we sit safely on our couch. I don't like it to be honest.

I don't think Ukraine can take back Crimea with 50yr old soldiers. They should go to the negotiations table already, if younger people don't care about fighting and stop wasting lives. A 45yr old can also breed you know. But he is not always capable of running to the next trench. War should be equal to all, young and old, poor and rich, otherwise it's not a war worth fighting for.