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This reminds me of a quote I read in Max Hasting's book "Overlord" several years ago- -How does a Churchill kill a Panther? -You get within 400 meters and bounce a shot off the front mantlet plate and into the top armor. -Has anyone ever done it? -Yes, Davis in C Troop, he's in the rear trying to recover his nerve. -How does a Churchill kill a Tiger? -You get within 200 meters and fire a shot through the gunner's periscope. -Has anyone ever done it? -No. (I paraphrase fom memory- but it captures the spirit of the thing.)

"bride assaults" ? This thread has taken a turn for the worst. I agree w/ the General- you were lucky to get anyone across a bridge in cc2- not to mention the spinning afv's and their turrets.

IMHO the biggest factor was the 30th being able to recognize the good ground, sit there and just flat refuse to give it up. I think the outcome was far from a foregone conclusion. The defense at Mortain allowed Bradley to ignore the counterattack and continue the breakout. As an aside, at one point the 30th was reduced to firing fresh radio batteries onto hill 317 in leaflet rounds. GO OLD HICKORY!

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As one of the bravest, Gen. Johnathan Wainwright deserves mention for defense of the Phllipines/ Bataan. (Of course, MacArthur is the flip side of that equation , but that's another thread... )

Mark Clark in the Liri Valley

I'd have to go with those stating the Germans had camoflaged bunkers. They spent a lot of time painting them to look like regular buildings and houses. They did an incredible airfield that looked like a town, with the runways as streets and building fronts painted on the hangar doors. When you don't have air superiority, everything's camoflaged.

The only one I know of is in MDMP-2. I don't know if there's a stand alone out there, but it would be nice.

The M1917 also had a greater capacity for sustained fire between barrel changes, because of the cooling system. I see a lot of pictures of the 1919 being hand carried in the "assault mode" with maybe 50 or so rounds in the belt. The M2 was usually considered too cumbersome for regular infantry operations (except defensive ones)

Eastern or Western Front? that's easy- The Pacific!

Someone was working on the US division insignia for DD's Uniform pack, weren't they?

I've had this happen before with a 7/2. I don't think its a "bug" per se, but just FOW doing it's job. Your troops have (mis)identified it as an SP gun and the hull is oriented to the direction of travel, and the weapon is oriented to the direction it's firing. It does look silly, but it's a sure indicator that your troops have guessed wrong. (like whern you kill a "Tiger?" at 300m with a 37mm gun)

One advantage of the .50 was that it could be used against lightly armored targets. (but even the .30 in combat could be effective against German halftracks.) Probably the biggest advantages were range and accuracy. I've read more than one account of .50's being used to "snipe" at long range. The size of the round probably helped too. In "Death Traps," Belton Cooper caracterized the Germans as "terrified" of the .50. I have never heard of the German Army officially adopting a similar weapon (although the Soviet Bloc wasted no time in developing the 12.5 mm) They seemed to jump straight from 7.92 to 20mm. I'm sure they used captured examples, and have seen pictures of them using the .30 air cooled at Arnhem. As far as CM, maybe there is a possibility that abandoned crew served weapons could be re-manned by either side based on unit experience. (but I'm sure that's been said before).

Remember, the M-1 Caribine was Audie Murphy's weapon of choice, so it had to have some worth on the field. I own one, a Winchester- and it's an enjoyable (and accurate) weapon to shoot (given it's 50+ years old) -Back to the BAR, though. One of the advantages was that you could slow down the ROF by adjusting the gas port. One man could lay down the accurate fire of 2 or 3 Garands, (at range) and stretch out the contents of that 20 round box. Just what you need when maneuvering a squad. You can leave fewer soldiers behind to establish a base of fire and send the bulk of riflemen forward. For a weapon designed for WWI, they got their money's worth.

If you've got some time, take a look through the Army Military History Institute's Online documents at http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/DL/chron.htm The "Combat Lessons Learned" pamphlets from 1944-45 touch on hedgerow technique, city fighting, and a lot of other stuff. It's contemprary with CMBO's time frame. They are in .pdf and have limited listing of contents, so pack a lunch.

Will the last person out of this thread please shut off the lights?