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A question for the forum… What if American Aid / support stops this year? My view is that as long as the other countries providing support that Ukraine will be able to defend and hold Russia off but they won’t be able to advance any further. We have seen other conflicts where a small flow of arms is enough to keep the conflict going. Russia has lost the best of their forces and are struggling to keep feeding meat into the attack. Russia rear areas are no longer safe and disruption to the war effort seems likely to continue even without American arms. Ukraine does have problems getting new recruits but I think there is enough to keep Russia at bay. The lack of Artillery shells might cause local setbacks but if a steady supply can be maintained I am thinking that Ukraine can hold the line. Ultimately if the rest of NATO provides funds America will gladly sell Ammo to Ukraine funded via Europe. I guess at worst it will force Ukraine to maybe entertain talking to the devil? Is the loss of American military aid the end of Ukraine? Answers on a postcard…

He knows he will lose and it costs a lot of money to keep a campaign running. He has made a choice to back Trump in the hope he will get something out of it "IF" Trump wins... Either way he will stay in favour of those that voted Trump for future elections... Trump will win the Republican primaries that has been known for quite a while. The Primaries see only a small fraction of those that can vote turn out and it is easy for a hardcore percentage to sway it for Trump. What we don't know is how many of every Republican will vote Trump at the election. Iowa was useful to see that nearly 50% of those that turned out did not vote Trump. In 2024 there are roughly 752k Registered Republican voters - only just over 100k of those voted in the primary. So he only got support from just over 52k of those that came out to vote. A lot can happen in the time before the vote in November. The Democrats have yet to fire up their campaign and Trump is getting a lot of free publicity at the court houses... That could turn out to be bad publicity by Nov... Anyway that's enough on American politics, back to Ukraine...

Ask not what Battlefront can do for you but what you can do for Battlefront. The stats are on the slitherine web pages...

While I get your sentiment, it does puzzle me why Putler cares about election results and hasn't done a mass mobilisation. So I think he does fear the public sentiment and the lack of Eggs and being cold don't make for happiness in Russia. So maybe the continued internal cracks will eventually change his confidence....

This just shows how it could be being tackled... It really shows the war in Gaza for what it is an excuse to remove the people from the area and give more land to be settled. As noted time and time again these actions will not make Israel safer and will not bring security to the region. If folk want safety for Israel this is absolutely the wrong approach. Russia has the excuse that their targeting systems are crap, the IDF are hitting exactly what they want and when they want to. This makes imo the IDF worse than the Russians yet they are not being held to account. Send them more ammo to murder more innocents to make Israel (and the world) less secure... Dohhh...

No it didn't. Shame on you...

Hi, just bombing the thread with YouTube links and no explanation puts you on my troll list. So care to explain your POV?

Good luck finding many journalists left alive in that area, the number of deaths have peaked and even in "safer" areas they have specifically been shot by IDF forces in the recent past. The BBC have been trying to show balance by reporting both sides of what is happening in Israel outside Gaza and have had IDF troops intimidation when interviewing Palestinian activists. Israeli citizens who have tried to raise their opposition have been falsely arrested and intimidated by the police. The courts independence are under attack by the government and before this horrific terrorist attack parts of the IDF were striking in protest against the extreme right wing government. The attack has allowed the extremists in the Israeli government to try and use it for their own ends. As has been said on other threads if you want to be the good guy you need to do the right things.

There have been videos circulating on a whole raft of very poor discipline in the IDF all related to the way they treat Arabs. People don't realise what level of anti Palestine sentiment is being stirred up and allowed to influence the forces on the ground. The Israeli media and leadership are in effect encouraging the IDF to commit war crimes. Even pop songs... There are whistle blowers trying to raise concerns but they are deemed enemies of the real Israelis. As the captain pointed out there are better ways to conduct this whole exercise. The current tragedy could have been avoided by a more careful measured approach but at the moment there is a rush to destroy Gaza before the Western world wakes up. In the UK our PM just went to Italy for a right wing get together talking about mass migration being used as a weapon to overwhelm Europe. 2 million folk in Gaza will be looking for homes.... Perhaps he should be putting pressure on getting Israel to move slowly and more accurately against Hamas rather than razing Gaza to the ground.

Are we there yet!!!

Hmmm Analysis as of the 29th Nov - Look at the pretty graphic just scroll down a bit... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67565872 As of the 12th Dec estimated at nearly 20% https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/nearly-fifth-gazas-buildings-destroyed-or-damaged-un-estimate-2023-12-12/ Why don't you actually do some fact checking before posting... The Capt really sums it up well.... BTW - I have personal bets on If War Crimes have been committed? If anyone will be held to account? Also on how many buildings Israel rebuilds for the folk of Gaza?

Hmmm I wonder if mistakes were made after that where folk used the incident for their own political ends which then had / continue to have impacts today. Pity we don't learn from our past. BTW I predict further forced migration to Europe, the Russian playbook being used by others... Maybe some folk do learn? Anyway thanks @The_Capt for trying to explain that there is another way of doing things which would be legal and still deal with the scum of Hamas.

Well it's odd that it has left one not two and in FOG2 it doesn't do that. Also with round 1 it didn't leave any turns. So it seems to be a bug, but I can (am) just ignore it, just thought I would mention it...

@BFCElvis BTW I still have a round 2 game showing in my PBEM folder, I try to delete it but it keeps coming back. I play it and it keeps coming back. I can't seem to get rid of it? I feel it's a bug but would be interested in knowing if anyone else still has a round 2 file in the PBEM pick up area...

I have been following this elsewhere and I did some digging today for some stats.. The number of attacks made by the IDF between October the 7th to November the 1st is reported at 12,000 individual targets. That’s 24 days to unleash the equivalent of 25,000 tonnes Or 500 targets a day… Or slightly over 20 an hour So now think about the ISR (Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance) required to plan and carefully select each of those targets and the logistics behind the scenes to agree it is a valid target and provide notification (if done) to those living at the intended target area. I have been concerned all along that there is no way in hell that with such a bombing campaign that it is being done in a careful manner that those supporting the IDF say it is done. I.e. We alert targets, we only hit valid military targets etc.… The proof is in the sheer number of civilian deaths and the sheer wanton destruction of the whole of Gaza. The IDF has pretty good ISR after all the area is slightly smaller than the size of the Isle of White but with a population density of roughly 21,000 people per square mile and an overall population of nearly 2 million people. Those people have no other place to go and the IDF control all the borders and sea and even in effect controls the crossing with Egypt as they have the right to stop it from opening and monitor everything using it. Yet I seriously question that any military has enough ISR to accurately select and initiate attacks 20 every hour. So the following gives an idea of how it is being managed back at the IDF HQ Some investigative work by Israeli citizens who are appalled at what is going on we are now getting an insight to what is really happening… We are now finding out that to undertake such a feat the IDF are using AI and the parameters are not great… Owen Jones is doing a good job of exposing this and he interviews an Israeli investigative journalist who has been working with IDF whistle blowers. https://youtu.be/mIbxF7GXfHs?si=IDXi5eQpEMpyP8y7 The more detailed article he is talking about and published, worth reading in full I think to understand the AI generation of targets. https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/ Some of the key points if you don’t want to watch the interview or read the article written by an Israeli citizen. There are 4 categories of target the first two are absolutely right and valid targets IMO. and the last two are IMO not valid targets and being used to collectively punish Gaza. So these targets to be valid for the IDF could just be a junior member of Hamas living in the tower block, they might give an order to evacuate the tower block then they level it. For all the other families living in the Tower block it is Hamas fault because they had an apartment there. For people who could not flee as there is nowhere safe to go they end up dead and I would say that is not a valid target because it is more about collective punishment. If Russia targetted a tower accomedation block because 1 member of the Ukraine military lived in it, would we be happy with that? Or a war crime....

@BFCElvis Sent you my Germans set up - the Allies I will likely do in the morning as suffering from a cold (man flu) and have spent too long sat in front of a PC already...

I was wondering if it was you. Your fault!! If the points system had been sorted for round 1 I would have been higher up and then you would have avoided me....

Perhaps keep your posts focused on the theme of the thread?

Hmmm I think he is a smart Russian Troll... That or needs to take a break and up the Meds...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67427422 Pretty sad and adds weight to how the good get taken down by a nasty minority backed up by institutions that have been subverted. The parallels with Nazi Germany and other dictatorships is clear. Russians will keep dying in Ukraine...

Why? It is pretty easy to see why folk are getting 1600 or even 2000. 2000 requires your opponent to attack / defend poorly and not damage enough of your forces to deny you the 400 points for force preservation. This all relates to CMBN games as I am not in the CW or RT sections.

Pity he didn't really understand the scoring as you can burn through virtually all of the American forces and still get 1600 points. Obviously it does depend on breaking the Germans while burning through those forces. All that counts is the control by touching those 2 VP locations and that could be with rallied American tank crews. In both my games Barkmanns tank died on the very last turn of the game.

All depends on what your opponent does, so there will always be outliers in the results.

The Germans are pretty tough to play and I bet not many will get any points with them. In hindsight I have some better approaches they could take but too late for me and I am keeping stum on what I would do differently. Was exciting to play with my opponent who really knocked out the turns...

Anyone else getting server errors @21:30 UK time? My oppo and I have been churning out the turns and we are down to 2 minutes on the last of the two games.... Just started to get error mssages?