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Hmmm I would think many would disagree that it's their territory, but I presume you mean Russia believe they will lose it after taking it illegally...

That approach would cross a red line which would mean all out war with Russia. NATO and the world would not be able to accept it so I seriously hope they don't but hey Putler is beyond sane at the moment and maybe he does not care about the world his daughters and grandchildren will live in? I think and hope there might be enough in the Russian military to understand that their children and grandchildren will suffer if they cross this line. Humans are hardwired to procreate and ultimately that like other animals is the main desire to ensure their offspring survive and prosper. Perhaps I am being naive but I hope reason prevails....

Gents any chance of keeping the thread on track? Ukraine...

ITV news last night lead on this https://www.itv.com/news/2022-04-11/three-war-crimes-in-bucha-which-reflect-russias-senseless-murders-in-ukraine A powerful well researched report, very difficult to watch. It takes time to create these reports and the world will get to see what Russia has brought upon Ukraine. So while I get some folk taking pot shots at the media we do have to understand that complex issues take time to explain.

Really intrigued as to how the anti shipping missiles will work for the Ukrainians. I presume NATO stock, so NATO mounts? I am not sure if they will be used anytime soon. Really hoping to be wrong and it could change the dynamic along the coast?

OK Maybe we will give Ukraine some ability to sink ships. https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/1512837866258419713 I hope pretty darned quick!

I doubt it, more a distraction to help Johnson back home rather than to help Ukraine. I hope the #ucking lack of visas to Ukrainian refugees was on the table, people in UK want to help but the Government is asking for paperwork even for cat's being brought into the UK. I am glad we have sent weapons but we could be doing more to help the refugees.

Hmm I wonder if there are any former Warsaw pact countries nearby with old stock they might be prepared to offer to Ukraine?

If the Russian leadership follows this path I can see WW3 and nukes being launched. The nutters in Russia are certainly doubling down, and some.

Hehe hehe I wonder who might have returned, I wonder if he knows how to use a VPN.

Gents please pay heed and take all this off line for heaven sake.

As for the interception rate it could have more to do with the quality of the product being rushed out of the factory? All it has to do is fly for the factory to be off the hook from not supplying a fully functional missile... Yes Comrade we have supplied you the missiles we promised...

Just seen this as an enhancement to help students understand the countries in Europe. Made me smile.

John IMO you are being a useful Russian stooge once again... https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/03/10/twitter-deletes-russian-embassys-posts-calling-an-apparent-pregnant-ukraine-hospital-victim-a-crisis-actor/?sh=6e323ee73c2b https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/60589965 As Womble politely asked you please engage what critical thought process you have The truth is out there..... (Just not on certain US TV channels...)

"All the Fun Stuff to make it a beautiful day" Hmmm I am not sure he should be there, his tone struck the wrong note with me. I do wonder about some of the volunteers and motives. Let's hope the Russians are quickly kicked out so the normal people can get back home and try and rebuild their lives and houses left burning by this war...

Erwin I think you need to really engage your critical analysis process and understand what has been happening and as Steve says read this thread and understand. (I suspect too much time watching certain TV news stations who once again have egg on their face pushing lies) IMO you are soo far from the ballpark that it is embarrassing.

Ok just seen this and it made me smile.

Amazing how many fall for these false narratives and then propagate it for the Russians as it fits within their internal narrative about some political parties. Just the number of folk that post that BS in this thread as some sort of justification for the Russian attacks saddens me.

If this is true then excellent work

Not my graphic work, but just seen it and I could caption it Steve and his wife in Bed? But it could equally apply to me and everyone else on this thread... Please don't put me on a vacation....

It means I bloody well wished they could be everywhere!!!!

Looks like the Russians have seized the power plant, the UKR forces can't be everywhere

The start of the insurgency? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60607649

Seen on another thread a user rename Putin to Putler... Might be worth naming him appropriately?

Trying to get a clear indication of the arm band, that they are wearing? Clearly a propaganda video shot. Nothing like that shown for the Russian troops which is telling. A bit like the photo shoot of the UKR troops on the bridge for the media early on in the WAR...