rune

Umm drag me into this? I didn't flame, I corrected a falsehood you kept repeating AFTER i said it wasn't true. I did not attack you, nor would I. Go back and reread what I posted. Rune

Oh and george is a puppy, good scenario designer, but still a puppy when it comes to making the guys cringe. Steve forgets the test scenario I had with a division worth of Syrian T-72s against a company of M1s. Or the map of a complete forested area, which forced Charles to cry in his jar. Rune

Not yet, plan on coming out with a patch. However, I can be bribed... Rune

Yes, you are allowed 2 installs. If you used both, just unlicense the laptop and install on the desktop. From what you typed howeverm this does nto seem to be the case, so go ahead and just install, budge4 was correct. Rune

This has been covered in a thread before. The answer is No officially. I'll see if I can find the thread and post it here, I know madmatt answered. Rune

Since things get quoted out of context sop easily here, I'll put in a forewarning. The performance enhancements I see may NOT be what you get. That being said, running the 8800GTX, set at balaned in the nvidia control panel, with the game set to best/best, 4X fsaa, 4X AF, using fraps and the latest 1.04 build, Allah's fist with the default start blue position, vsync off in the game menu. I have a quad core system with 4 gb of memory. FPS at best/best 32fps better/better 36fps improved/improved 52fps balanced/balanced 56fps Rememeber the build has fixes to multicore and some changed optimizations. Rune

Simple, Perhaps if you and lurker would notice that I am part of battlefront, and I am speaking officially, maybe you should listen? I know EXACTLY what it means, it means exactly what I said. No one said we will patch untill no one plays anymore, good way of going under. You heard BFC's response from me several times and have ignored what I have said. [shrugs] Rune

Philip, Again, false logic. Who said patches do NOT continue after 1.05? No one here said that, what was said is not 100% of Charles' time goes towards patches, some time has to go to generate the new module. Bug fixes or game enhancements will be patched back into CMSF, but things like units, TO&e, will not for obvious reasons. Again no one at battlefront said 1.04 or 1.05 is the final patch, quit saying that. Rune

redwolf, Incorrect again. 1.04 is NOT done, matter of fact, more things are going into it. No, i won't post what, as then you will whine that I said something is in, and it may nto be included if it breaks something else. However, be happy to know we are on the 13th version of 1.04, and not due to bugs, but changed things. Is it the end all? Nope. Does it change gameplay, yep. Rune

Going to correct an out and out falsehood repeated here by a few. Steve NEVER said CMSF was finished, what he said that after 1.04, patches won't be the priority, but the next module will be. He also CLEARLY stated that a 1.05 is being planned. In easier terms, it means Charle's time instead of being 100% on patches, will be divided between patches and the module. Quit the bull**** that Steve said it was finished. Rune

Gunz, I'll give them a shot later tonight, if you want to wait that long. Rune

Somewhat, but remember I have the 8800 GTX and I am getting 14-15 fps at best/best, which is better then you are doing. however, the card I have is obviously faster and has 768 meg memory. Edited, yes I have the evga 8800gtx card, with 768 megs of memory as I stated. Rune

Handihoc, Which was exactly why iw anted it tested, for some users, the drivers and alt tab have helped out frame rate and at least got some of the scenarios playable. As Steve said, there seems to be three issues, and at least we have identified 2 of them, the third still being elusive. At least we KNOW there is a texture memory problem, and nvidia is working on it. Dirt, Should you change out the card? Good question, the problem could appear on the next card the same way. All I can do is say personally, and personally I have cards from evga [the 8800] and bfg [my 7800 card]. I have been pleased with both. Is it worth to change one of them, can't make that call, but if it was MY card, I would if it already wasn't one of these. Rune

OK as promised, set to best/best with nvidia control panel set to balanced. 14 fps. Will be working on what the difference is between balanced and quality. Rune

huntarr, kawabonga, remember the texture problem pertains to the 8xxx series of cards, I wouldn't think you saw a big difference. Bfly, The dual core problem is pretty much fixed. My system is a quad core and I am using all cores and i CAN use the threaded optimization. However, my build is different then yours for testing. I'll try the up/down thing. Rune

Dirt, I understand, but it is more then that. before the driver, i was in the single digits. I repeat this from an earlier post. Better/better @1280 X 960 I was getting a consistent 24 fps. I can live with 24 fps at that setting. Going to try best/best when I get back home with the nvidia control panel set to balanced. however a jump from 6-7 fps to 24 at better/better gives me hope, especially since I gain even more fps if I alt tab out and in. hopefully you will see increase too. Rune

Doug, More information is needed. What were the game settings? Yes, grass can cause a slow down, if you are best/best because you are getting three different grass types, better/better is 2 I think. However, if the card isn't handling the texture memory correctly, it is going to hose things up. so it might not just be the grass, but settings along with the texture memory problem. Did you try the alt tab to see if it helped the fps when at the slow marks? Rune

Bflyblue, i do not get the slowdowns again if I move. later today I am going to try to determine what the difference is between the quality and the balanced setting in the nvidia control panel, and try to narrow it down some more. The texture memory problem has to be fixed by nvidia, but maybe something charles can do to help things out. Rune

No, it proves the alt tab is working for some of us. Since we are getting better frame rates with this new driver, and get even better frame rate with alt tab, we have narrowed it down a little. Charles is trying some magic to see if the frame rate can come up. Also, try setting the nvidia control panel to balanced. Do NOT set for quality or try the settings yourself. Then try best/best, I did and got better framerate then the above. Hopefully Charles can make some tweaks and nvidia fix the problem, and we may get there yet. Rune

Try the nvidia control panel to balanced, then game to balanced/balanced. get into the scenario and alt tab out then back in, what frame rate are you getting with the 163.67? Rune

I tested with better/better in the game and still ahd improvement. Set the nvidia control panel to balanced, then try the balanced/balanced in the game with the alt tab trick, then try it with the better/better and the alt tab trick. Rune

Try this: http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=70;t=000379 make sure you test the alt tabbing out and back into the game. Also try the balanced seting in the nvidia cotnrol panel. I went from 9 fps, now running at 52 fps. Rune

Hukka, Thanks for taking the time to test and confirming what I saw. As a thank you, toss me your email and I will send youa rune scenario [some will see this as punishment :0] that will be out with a later build. Rune

That is strange, i tested before and after the new drivers, and I definitely see an improvement, and even more so with the alt tabbing. I have a 8800 GTX however, not sure if that is the difference or not. Rune

Hukka! Excellent! Now try this, set the nvidia control panel to balanced, do not let the application control, and do NOT manually adjust the settings. Setting it to balanced, and the game to balanced/balanced, with the 1280 X 960, and allah's fist, i am now averaging 52.4 fps! I did a search on the alt tab thing, which i found by accident while email the guys and messign with the game. It looks like it is a KNOWN nvidia issue. See this: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41330 Keep testing!!!! Rune [ September 11, 2007, 05:14 AM: Message edited by: rune ]